Comments on: The Clinton Success Exception http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2009/01/the-clinton-success-exception/ Taylor Marsh - News, Political Analysis, Foreign Policy, and Independent Political Opinion on Progressive Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:43:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: ogenechttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2009/01/the-clinton-success-exception/comment-page-1/#comment-426553 ogenec Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:12:21 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=336#comment-426553 John H | 01.28.2009 - 3:33 pm | #<br /> <br /> Thanks. I agree with you as well (and c chicago). Not to sound sanctimonious, but I am fed up with the politics of faction. Not just w/r/t the primary, but also Republicans. If we are being honest, the stimulus bill is larded with pork from both sides. Let's cut as much of that stuff out as possible, pass a mean and lean stimulus bill that jumpstarts the economy, and then move on to our longer-term goals. Including health care, entitlement reform, reduced teen pregnancy etc.<br /> <br /> My two cents. John H | 01.28.2009 – 3:33 pm | #

Thanks. I agree with you as well (and c chicago). Not to sound sanctimonious, but I am fed up with the politics of faction. Not just w/r/t the primary, but also Republicans. If we are being honest, the stimulus bill is larded with pork from both sides. Let’s cut as much of that stuff out as possible, pass a mean and lean stimulus bill that jumpstarts the economy, and then move on to our longer-term goals. Including health care, entitlement reform, reduced teen pregnancy etc.

My two cents.

]]> By: djjlhttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2009/01/the-clinton-success-exception/comment-page-1/#comment-426552 djjl Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:10:48 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=336#comment-426552 Speaking of Cantor, why doesn't Pelosi, Reid or some other member of the Democratic Party, inform him that the name of the party is Democratic Party - not Democrat Party. Speaking of Cantor, why doesn’t Pelosi, Reid or some other member of the Democratic Party, inform him that the name of the party is Democratic Party – not Democrat Party.

]]> By: djjlhttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2009/01/the-clinton-success-exception/comment-page-1/#comment-426551 djjl Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:09:11 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=336#comment-426551 Being critical of the actions of the DNC and the party in general should not be viewed as being critical of President Obama. I think he has done fine in the 9 days he's been President and I expect he will continue to do a good job.<br /> <br /> But, I don't expect to forget the way Hillary Clinton was treated and the silence from the DNC and virtually all prominent Democrats. The sexist behavior was and is appalling. <br /> <br /> I do note that one of the areas the Democrats and Obama have chosen to appease some conservatives by dropping a measure providing contraception for poor women from the stimulus bill. Now that they've decided to drop it, I'm curious to see who now is going to support the bill because of that dropped provision. <a href="http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/01/show_me_the_votes.php" target="_blank">http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/01/show_me_the_votes.php</a> Being critical of the actions of the DNC and the party in general should not be viewed as being critical of President Obama. I think he has done fine in the 9 days he’s been President and I expect he will continue to do a good job.

But, I don’t expect to forget the way Hillary Clinton was treated and the silence from the DNC and virtually all prominent Democrats. The sexist behavior was and is appalling.

I do note that one of the areas the Democrats and Obama have chosen to appease some conservatives by dropping a measure providing contraception for poor women from the stimulus bill. Now that they’ve decided to drop it, I’m curious to see who now is going to support the bill because of that dropped provision. http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/01/show_me_the_votes.php

]]> By: John Hhttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2009/01/the-clinton-success-exception/comment-page-1/#comment-426550 John H Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:33:24 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=336#comment-426550 Oops, the dreaded double post. Oops, the dreaded double post.

]]> By: John Hhttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2009/01/the-clinton-success-exception/comment-page-1/#comment-426549 John H Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:33:04 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=336#comment-426549 Then when the economy<br /> recovers, we can start doing the longer-term things that Obama promised. But the stimulus bill<br /> is not the proper place for many of them.<br /> <br /> <br /> ogenec <br /> <br /> I agree with you so much! Obama's been president 9 days and he's betrayed those who voted for him? I truly did want change. I am certainly more to the left than Obama has been as president so far, but it doesn't mean I don't understand why he took out family planning money from an economic stimulus bill. People also have to realize the bill itself is part kickstart, part symbolic. It shows the gov't. doesn't want to see 12% unemployment. This country is in deep trouble, primarily due to Bushco, but the Democrats have certainly contributed.<br /> <br /> Pass something, and try to push the levers so things don't get too bad and we can ride this out for the next 18 months until things start to turn around. Some things will have to wait, and many things will have to wait their turn. <br /> <br /> I suspect many things are happening behind the scenes. All I know is that 5 years ago this guy was state senator, and now he's president because he a few very trusted and smart advisors.<br /> <br /> If he has to lower himself to talk to the Republicans, so be it. Its one hell of a lot more than Bush ever did, and he builds some capital for later.<br /> Then when the economy
recovers, we can start doing the longer-term things that Obama promised. But the stimulus bill
is not the proper place for many of them.

ogenec

I agree with you so much! Obama’s been president 9 days and he’s betrayed those who voted for him? I truly did want change. I am certainly more to the left than Obama has been as president so far, but it doesn’t mean I don’t understand why he took out family planning money from an economic stimulus bill. People also have to realize the bill itself is part kickstart, part symbolic. It shows the gov’t. doesn’t want to see 12% unemployment. This country is in deep trouble, primarily due to Bushco, but the Democrats have certainly contributed.

Pass something, and try to push the levers so things don’t get too bad and we can ride this out for the next 18 months until things start to turn around. Some things will have to wait, and many things will have to wait their turn.

I suspect many things are happening behind the scenes. All I know is that 5 years ago this guy was state senator, and now he’s president because he a few very trusted and smart advisors.

If he has to lower himself to talk to the Republicans, so be it. Its one hell of a lot more than Bush ever did, and he builds some capital for later.

]]> By: John Hhttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2009/01/the-clinton-success-exception/comment-page-1/#comment-426548 John H Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:33:00 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=336#comment-426548 Then when the economy<br /> recovers, we can start doing the longer-term things that Obama promised. But the stimulus bill<br /> is not the proper place for many of them.<br /> <br /> <br /> ogenec <br /> <br /> I agree with you so much! Obama's been president 9 days and he's betrayed those who voted for him? I truly did want change. I am certainly more to the left than Obama has been as president so far, but it doesn't mean I don't understand why he took out family planning money from an economic stimulus bill. People also have to realize the bill itself is part kickstart, part symbolic. It shows the gov't. doesn't want to see 12% unemployment. This country is in deep trouble, primarily due to Bushco, but the Democrats have certainly contributed.<br /> <br /> Pass something, and try to push the levers so things don't get too bad and we can ride this out for the next 18 months until things start to turn around. Some things will have to wait, and many things will have to wait their turn. <br /> <br /> I suspect many things are happening behind the scenes. All I know is that 5 years ago this guy was state senator, and now he's president because he a few very trusted and smart advisors.<br /> <br /> If he has to lower himself to talk to the Republicans, so be it. Its one hell of a lot more than Bush ever did, and he builds some capital for later.<br /> Then when the economy
recovers, we can start doing the longer-term things that Obama promised. But the stimulus bill
is not the proper place for many of them.

ogenec

I agree with you so much! Obama’s been president 9 days and he’s betrayed those who voted for him? I truly did want change. I am certainly more to the left than Obama has been as president so far, but it doesn’t mean I don’t understand why he took out family planning money from an economic stimulus bill. People also have to realize the bill itself is part kickstart, part symbolic. It shows the gov’t. doesn’t want to see 12% unemployment. This country is in deep trouble, primarily due to Bushco, but the Democrats have certainly contributed.

Pass something, and try to push the levers so things don’t get too bad and we can ride this out for the next 18 months until things start to turn around. Some things will have to wait, and many things will have to wait their turn.

I suspect many things are happening behind the scenes. All I know is that 5 years ago this guy was state senator, and now he’s president because he a few very trusted and smart advisors.

If he has to lower himself to talk to the Republicans, so be it. Its one hell of a lot more than Bush ever did, and he builds some capital for later.

]]> By: c chicagohttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2009/01/the-clinton-success-exception/comment-page-1/#comment-426547 c chicago Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:31:42 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=336#comment-426547 Ugh - I really do hate to re-open old wounds, but I totally agree that the way many pro-Obama democrats treated Hillary during 2008 was unfair, unjust, nasty, undeserved, etc. Nobody has contributed more or fought harder for the democrats than Hillary and she got kicked in the face as a reward.<br /> <br /> But we have to remember that as democrats we share most of the same beliefs and goals and I am certainly sleeping better knowing that the next SC justices will be appointed by president Obama and not President McCain. <br /> <br /> So lets try to put the past aside and work together as democrats to show what a united party can accomplish under President Obama. Ugh – I really do hate to re-open old wounds, but I totally agree that the way many pro-Obama democrats treated Hillary during 2008 was unfair, unjust, nasty, undeserved, etc. Nobody has contributed more or fought harder for the democrats than Hillary and she got kicked in the face as a reward.

But we have to remember that as democrats we share most of the same beliefs and goals and I am certainly sleeping better knowing that the next SC justices will be appointed by president Obama and not President McCain.

So lets try to put the past aside and work together as democrats to show what a united party can accomplish under President Obama.

]]> By: ogenechttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2009/01/the-clinton-success-exception/comment-page-1/#comment-426546 ogenec Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:20:49 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=336#comment-426546 I hope we're not still engaged in a fight over who the Democratic Party belongs to. I know that some of you don't believe Obama's bipartisan approach is principled, or even likely to succeed. But what is the alternative? Pull the country hard left, only to watch Republicans pull it hard right? Folks voted for Obama because they are seasick from all the lurching back and forth. It's hard to change Washington, but the task is made easier if we help Obama push. And that means putting pressure on our elected representatives to get the stimulus package passed.<br /> <br /> Re: stimulus, I think Democrats do themselves a disservice by viewing this as a spending bill. It's supposed to kick start the economy. That means infrastructure, but not contraception. It means tax cuts where they will stimulate demand (middle class), not for fat cats. If the Democrats let go of their pet spending projects, and the Republicans let go of the across-board tax cuts, we have a bill that would prime the pump. Then when the economy recovers, we can start doing the longer-term things that Obama promised. But the stimulus bill is not the proper place for many of them.<br /> <br /> I hope we’re not still engaged in a fight over who the Democratic Party belongs to. I know that some of you don’t believe Obama’s bipartisan approach is principled, or even likely to succeed. But what is the alternative? Pull the country hard left, only to watch Republicans pull it hard right? Folks voted for Obama because they are seasick from all the lurching back and forth. It’s hard to change Washington, but the task is made easier if we help Obama push. And that means putting pressure on our elected representatives to get the stimulus package passed.

Re: stimulus, I think Democrats do themselves a disservice by viewing this as a spending bill. It’s supposed to kick start the economy. That means infrastructure, but not contraception. It means tax cuts where they will stimulate demand (middle class), not for fat cats. If the Democrats let go of their pet spending projects, and the Republicans let go of the across-board tax cuts, we have a bill that would prime the pump. Then when the economy recovers, we can start doing the longer-term things that Obama promised. But the stimulus bill is not the proper place for many of them.

]]> By: djjlhttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2009/01/the-clinton-success-exception/comment-page-1/#comment-426545 djjl Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:18:57 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=336#comment-426545 Betsy,<br /> 60 plus years ago Franklin Roosevelt was the President and he was a Democrat. I'd say that he represented the party for the little man - not business.<br /> <br /> I agree, they are hanging themselves. Selfishness is not currently in /> <br /> I loved your story about Cantor. Betsy,
60 plus years ago Franklin Roosevelt was the President and he was a Democrat. I’d say that he represented the party for the little man – not business.

I agree, they are hanging themselves. Selfishness is not currently in />

I loved your story about Cantor.

]]> By: John Hhttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2009/01/the-clinton-success-exception/comment-page-1/#comment-426544 John H Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:18:53 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=336#comment-426544 Sorry typo meant to type UHC. <br /> Iceblinkjm <br /> <br /> Why would UHC be in an economic stimulus package? Except to make sure it happens in 2012. Sorry typo meant to type UHC.
Iceblinkjm

Why would UHC be in an economic stimulus package? Except to make sure it happens in 2012.

]]> By: Betsyhttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2009/01/the-clinton-success-exception/comment-page-1/#comment-426543 Betsy Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:59:43 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=336#comment-426543 Long been, but I'm talking 60 years djjl. This b.s. that the Republicans are pulling wanting to cut taxes, is just that, b.s. They want a cut on the rich not the regular joe blow. Well, I think that Obama is just letting them hang themselves. <br /> By the way Andrea Mitchell was interviewing Cantor (the neocon from VA), and asked him what he thought of what Rush said. he danced around and then at the end she said, I understand that you are going to be on Rush's show today. He got a little uncomfortable and said "yes". She smiled and said "we'll be listening." I loved it. Long been, but I’m talking 60 years djjl. This b.s. that the Republicans are pulling wanting to cut taxes, is just that, b.s. They want a cut on the rich not the regular joe blow. Well, I think that Obama is just letting them hang themselves.
By the way Andrea Mitchell was interviewing Cantor (the neocon from VA), and asked him what he thought of what Rush said. he danced around and then at the end she said, I understand that you are going to be on Rush’s show today. He got a little uncomfortable and said “yes”. She smiled and said “we’ll be listening.” I loved it.

]]> By: djjlhttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2009/01/the-clinton-success-exception/comment-page-1/#comment-426542 djjl Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:58:33 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=336#comment-426542 LOL LOL

]]> By: Iceblinkjmhttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2009/01/the-clinton-success-exception/comment-page-1/#comment-426541 Iceblinkjm Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:57:10 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=336#comment-426541 Sorry typo meant to type UHC. Sorry typo meant to type UHC.

]]> By: djjlhttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2009/01/the-clinton-success-exception/comment-page-1/#comment-426540 djjl Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:56:20 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=336#comment-426540 Iceblinkjm<br /> What is HOLC? Iceblinkjm
What is HOLC?

]]> By: Iceblinkjmhttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2009/01/the-clinton-success-exception/comment-page-1/#comment-426539 Iceblinkjm Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:54:43 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=336#comment-426539 Sorry but the stimulus package is a joke pure and simple. Where's the real money for energy and infrastructure? Where's the Apollo like effort we were promised during the primary and general election for energy? Where's HOLC? LL, DJJ I agree. Sorry but the stimulus package is a joke pure and simple. Where’s the real money for energy and infrastructure? Where’s the Apollo like effort we were promised during the primary and general election for energy? Where’s HOLC? LL, DJJ I agree.

]]> By: djjlhttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2009/01/the-clinton-success-exception/comment-page-1/#comment-426538 djjl Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:53:37 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=336#comment-426538 The Democratic Party has long been the party of the people - not big business. But the Party showed something undemocratic of late. They must follow the rules except when they want to suspend the rules. I don't trust the DNC. The Democratic Party has long been the party of the people – not big business. But the Party showed something undemocratic of late. They must follow the rules except when they want to suspend the rules. I don’t trust the DNC.

]]> By: Betsyhttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2009/01/the-clinton-success-exception/comment-page-1/#comment-426537 Betsy Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:48:05 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=336#comment-426537 When I was very young :-), meaning early teens I remember my family saying that the dems were for big business and the repubs were for the people. It seems to now have flipped after I would say Eisenhower. I may be wrong, but if that IS the new Democratic party, I'm all for it. The Dems in my book are really more progressive then the Repubs. I see nothing wrong with that. <br /> I think we need to be patient with the new Admin and see what happens. I just heard a Dem Congressman from VA and he said that the cities are very excited because they will be getting some money from this package.<br /> I am choosing to wait and see how this works before I become critical. When I was very young :-) , meaning early teens I remember my family saying that the dems were for big business and the repubs were for the people. It seems to now have flipped after I would say Eisenhower. I may be wrong, but if that IS the new Democratic party, I’m all for it. The Dems in my book are really more progressive then the Repubs. I see nothing wrong with that.
I think we need to be patient with the new Admin and see what happens. I just heard a Dem Congressman from VA and he said that the cities are very excited because they will be getting some money from this package.
I am choosing to wait and see how this works before I become critical.

]]> By: djjlhttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2009/01/the-clinton-success-exception/comment-page-1/#comment-426536 djjl Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:47:14 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=336#comment-426536 Lake Lady<br /> I'm afraid I agree with you too. Lake Lady
I’m afraid I agree with you too.

]]> By: Lake Ladyhttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2009/01/the-clinton-success-exception/comment-page-1/#comment-426533 Lake Lady Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:30:02 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=336#comment-426533 I usually don't agree with Ann on many things. I find her oddly without empathy.Her emotional tone always stikes me as male for some reason.Please don't be offended Ann I find you very funny sometimes,I just don't agree with your conclusions. But on your last comment I have a great fear that you are on to something. I usually don’t agree with Ann on many things. I find her oddly without empathy.Her emotional tone always stikes me as male for some reason.Please don’t be offended Ann I find you very funny sometimes,I just don’t agree with your conclusions. But on your last comment I have a great fear that you are on to something.

]]> By: AnninCAhttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2009/01/the-clinton-success-exception/comment-page-1/#comment-426531 AnninCA Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:23:32 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=336#comment-426531 I know I'll bug people with this, but so what. I do when I think I'm posting innocuously.<br /> <br /> My own perspective is that the Democratic party died. The label continued, but not the real party.<br /> <br /> This "Democratic" party isn't really Democrat. They don't support Clinton. Easy clue.<br /> <br /> They attacked Hillary. Another easy clue.<br /> <br /> There are many example of this being some odd-ball party.<br /> <br /> What I see?<br /> <br /> They took the name.<br /> <br /> but they aren't real Democrats. I know I’ll bug people with this, but so what. I do when I think I’m posting innocuously.

My own perspective is that the Democratic party died. The label continued, but not the real party.

This “Democratic” party isn’t really Democrat. They don’t support Clinton. Easy clue.

They attacked Hillary. Another easy clue.

There are many example of this being some odd-ball party.

What I see?

They took the name.

but they aren’t real Democrats.

]]> By: djjlhttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2009/01/the-clinton-success-exception/comment-page-1/#comment-426528 djjl Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:06:35 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=336#comment-426528 We had a terrible ice storm in 2000. The entire state was a mess for months. We had two storms back to back. Some people didn't have water and over 300,000 homes lost power for days. The ice was so bad you couldn't even walk very far. It just wasn't worth the chance of getting hurt. We had a terrible ice storm in 2000. The entire state was a mess for months. We had two storms back to back. Some people didn’t have water and over 300,000 homes lost power for days. The ice was so bad you couldn’t even walk very far. It just wasn’t worth the chance of getting hurt.

]]> By: TaylorMarshhttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2009/01/the-clinton-success-exception/comment-page-1/#comment-426526 TaylorMarsh Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:03:08 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=336#comment-426526 Yikes!<br /> <br /> I remember that type of weather, but it's going to take some getting used to.<br /> Yikes!

I remember that type of weather, but it’s going to take some getting used to.

]]> By: MyManJeeveshttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2009/01/the-clinton-success-exception/comment-page-1/#comment-426521 MyManJeeves Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:00:30 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=336#comment-426521 I live between Baltimore and DC, and we woke up to about 3/4" of solid ice on the roads. My wife is a teacher and they will close schools on a dusting of snow, which can be idiotic, but nobody in their right mind would even attempt to drive today. You might make it with a hummer but it also could still slide off the road.<br /> <br /> I live between Baltimore and DC, and we woke up to about 3/4″ of solid ice on the roads. My wife is a teacher and they will close schools on a dusting of snow, which can be idiotic, but nobody in their right mind would even attempt to drive today. You might make it with a hummer but it also could still slide off the road.

]]> By: Betsyhttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2009/01/the-clinton-success-exception/comment-page-1/#comment-426514 Betsy Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:53:29 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=336#comment-426514 That's good. After having relatives that got the ice storm back east in December and watching the pictures from this one, I think I would rather have a blizzard then an ice storm. That’s good. After having relatives that got the ice storm back east in December and watching the pictures from this one, I think I would rather have a blizzard then an ice storm.

]]> By: djjlhttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2009/01/the-clinton-success-exception/comment-page-1/#comment-426513 djjl Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:51:57 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=336#comment-426513 We just barely missed the ice Betsy. We just barely missed the ice Betsy.

]]> By: Betsyhttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2009/01/the-clinton-success-exception/comment-page-1/#comment-426510 Betsy Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:48:22 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=336#comment-426510 Hi djjl. Hope you didn't get any of the ice storm. Hi djjl. Hope you didn’t get any of the ice storm.

]]> By: Betsyhttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2009/01/the-clinton-success-exception/comment-page-1/#comment-426508 Betsy Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:47:55 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=336#comment-426508 Just popped on for a short time since we are busy redoing our kitchen. <br /> I absolutely think they need to get off this kick. Obama and Clinton have come to an agreement and that should be it. I'm sick of the "hungry sharks" that circle around waiting for something to happen. There are more important matters for the administration. Let Obama do his business and Hillary do hers. Just popped on for a short time since we are busy redoing our kitchen.
I absolutely think they need to get off this kick. Obama and Clinton have come to an agreement and that should be it. I’m sick of the “hungry sharks” that circle around waiting for something to happen. There are more important matters for the administration. Let Obama do his business and Hillary do hers.

]]> By: djjlhttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2009/01/the-clinton-success-exception/comment-page-1/#comment-426504 djjl Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:41:41 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=336#comment-426504 And that was 20 years ago. And that was 20 years ago.

]]> By: djjlhttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2009/01/the-clinton-success-exception/comment-page-1/#comment-426503 djjl Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:41:26 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=336#comment-426503 Seems to me I recall Reagan hauling in $2,000,000 for a speech or two in Japan. Seems to me I recall Reagan hauling in $2,000,000 for a speech or two in Japan.

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