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Oh, for criminy sakes! President Obama has been in office less than one week, but a notable Middle East scholar, someone very respected, is asking whether Obama delivering on his campaign rhetoric regarding Pakistan (see drone strike last week), well, could it signal “Obama’s Vietnam?” Talk about your wingnut New Years gift, presented on the wings of hyperbole.
On Friday, President Barack Obama ordered an Air Force drone to bomb two separate Pakistani villages, killing what Pakistani officials said were 22 individuals, including between four and seven foreign fighters. Many of Obama’s initiatives in his first few days in office — preparing to depart Iraq, ending torture and closing Guantánamo — were aimed at signaling a sharp turn away from Bush administration policies. In contrast, the headline about the strike in Waziristan could as easily have appeared in December with “President Bush” substituted for “President Obama.” Pundits are already worrying that Obama may be falling into the Lyndon Johnson Vietnam trap, of escalating a predecessor’s halfhearted war into a major quagmire. What does Obama’s first military operation tell us about his administration’s priorities?[...] – Juan Cole
Really? Already? “Lyndon Johnson” and “major quagmire” all at once, with “Vietnam trap” the cherry on top? And from Juan Cole. You expect this crap from Bob Woodward, but Cole? More:
The risk Obama takes in continuing the Bush administration policy of bombing Pakistani territory is provoking further anger in the public of that country against the United States and harming the legitimacy of Zardari’s fragile elected government. A Gallup poll done last summer found that 45 percent of Pakistanis believe that the U.S. military presence in Afghanistan poses a threat to their country. Of Pakistanis who expressed an opinion on the matter, an overwhelming majority believed that the cooperation between the U.S. and the Pakistani military in the “war on terror” has mainly benefited Washington. If a more muscular American policy toward Afghanistan and Pakistan sufficiently angers the Pakistani public, they could start voting for religious parties, delivering a nuclear state into the hands of Muslim fundamentalists.
Could? Yeah, and Osama could be caught tomorrow.
Whether President Obama approved continuing these strikes or not, he did, the fundamentalists in Pakistan will continue their work to make an Islamic state independent of what the new American President does or does not do. That’s no reason for U.S. policy to shift away from targeting militants for military strike in FATA, if intelligence proves it worthy. As Cole states at the end of his piece, it’s not like military strikes are the only part of Obama’s Af-Pak strategy:
Obama’s policy toward Pakistan is not solely military. He appointed as his special advisor on Pakistan and Afghanistan veteran diplomat Richard Holbrooke, who played an important role in peace negotiations over Bosnia in the 1990s. The new president, who has praised Pakistan’s return to civilian parliamentary rule, has pledged to triple civilian aid. Opinion polling shows that more civilian development monies and less focus on military equipment are precisely what a majority of the Pakistani public want. Obama also intends to tie the annual amount of military aid released to the actual performance of the Pakistani military in preventing cross-border raids of FATA militants into Afghanistan. Allegations have swirled for the past year that rogue cells in the feared Inter-Services Intelligence of the Pakistani military have been actively sending the militants to hit targets inside Afghanistan, including the Indian embassy at Kabul.
The Jamaat-e-Islami protest picture accompanying Juan Cole’s piece almost seems like a tease. Like if radical Islamists are protesting the drone strike, just how bad could it be? Oh, right, Pakistan is teetering, so one push might do it. Some think the argument should be no military action at all, which includes in Afghanistan, using Iraq, Vietnam… and every other prior military engagement as proof that military engagement isn’t wise, so it cannot work or shouldn’t be done.
Utilizing military scapegoats in order to define engagement commitment and policy shift should not be confused with good debate.
Schake is asking exactly the right question — which many advising Obama seem to not be investigating vigorously. Why are the Taliban succeeding so dramatically in the assessments of Afghans? And what has happened to the residual support that Brzezinski hoped would hold us over? – Steve Clemons
In other words, unlike Bush, who made everything about Anything But What Clinton Did, Obama will approve airstrikes if they are warranted in Pakistan (or elsewhere), not stop them just because it was Bush policy. Obviously some will refuse the distinction, proving that Obama is just like Bush. Ri-ight.
But “Obama’s Vietnam?” This is where esteemed liberals are willing to take the plot line just one week out from Obama’s inauguration? Doesn’t bode well for the upcoming Af-Pak debate, but this is what traditional media sources are talking about when they report about “the antiwar left” going after Obama.
Sean Hannity says thanks. Or who knows, maybe it’s a gift.
UPDATE: Juan Cole responds.









Geithner confirmed, 60-34.
Never a doubt. Republicans love him.
Never a doubt. Republicans love him.
TaylorMarsh | Homepage | 01.26.2009 – 6:16 pm | #
60 vote is big though… okay NOW I’m reading the post Taylor.
Only 6 republican senators voted FOR the confirmation ?
Suck It Repubs …
Now I get to skip paying my taxes this year …
President Obama 2013 …
11 Republicans voted yes.
Can’t stand Woodward … Very well writtten Taylor. Thanks for your never ending effort to educate and keep us all informed. Meanwhile …
Good news (heehe)
On Monday, House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers (D-MI) issued a subpoena to Karl Rove, requiring him to testify regarding his role in the Bush Administration’s politicization of the Department of Justice, including the US Attorney firings and the prosecution of former Alabama Governor Don Siegelman.
IndyRobin | 01.26.2009 – 6:48 pm | #
I think his timing was bad. Just more fuel to continue to stonewall the AG confirmation.
Applause for Juan.
I challenged him to reference your site in the comments area (he carefully trims comments down to only a few).
He met the challenge.
Hope it helps your counter a little, TM
So your argument seems to be that he is not supporting the president vigorously enough, his considered judgement be damned, and his dissent might embolden political adversaries.
Interesting.
Before the innauguration I was talking with my mom and criticizing the then president elect for his silence on Gaza(which i did and do consider his ‘one president at a time crap’ self serving), and for reconstituting Clinton’s mideast team. My mom, who knows no Palastinians, tisk-tisked me along with my wife, saying ooohhh, give the guy a chance, we want to like him for now.
In the next sentence, we moved on to Rick Warren at the innauguration. Well. My mom knows alot of gay people, and was all beside herself, both at the president elect and the gay community. Why didn’t the gay community boycott the whole thing or take out newspaper adds or something!
I said, well, maybe they have people telling them to give him a chance and don’t criticize because we want to like him. She looked like I had slapped her, and well she should.
“He may be a fool, but he’s our fool” is a great way of getting fools to run your country.
No, it’s because the argument Juan Cole is using is RIDICULOUS.
Whatever he’s going to do in the Af-Pak region hasn’t even begun and certainly has no resemblance to “Obama’s Vietnam” or even relevancy to beg the question.
Obama has been in office ONE WEEK. Believe me, I’m more than capable of criticizing Barack Obama. Ask anyone, but let’s make sure he deserves it.
As Cole points out this morning, rightly, the only justification for the US bombing within Pakistani territory is adherence to the Bush Doctrine, not international law, not as a signatory of the UN charter. I agree with Cole that at the least the Bush policy of drone attacks on targets within Pakistan should have been halted and a thorough review ordered before the policy was continued.
Reviews of policy have been praised when they involve the unfair military tribunals, when closing Guantanamo, the black sites, or reigning in torture, but not with equally disturbing remote assassinations on a sovereign territory often involving innocents? What legal justification exists for these attacks? Can you cite any, Ms. Taylor?
These attacks are not a manifest use of “smart power.” They are a dangerous provocation in a delicate region.
This is not simple adherence to Bush Doctrine, it’s what Obama believes is required, which was stated back during the campaign season. HRC and BO got into quite a back and forth on it during the primaries. He’s believed in a stronger hand towards Pakistan for years.
Justification? You mean like al Qaeda and bin Laden likely being in the FATA territory?
How do you know Pakistan didn’t okay the strike? It’s not like they are going to announce it.
Also, if you are so inclined, read my response post:
http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=29027
I’ve posted a response over in Cole’s comment section. It’s waiting moderation.