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. BTW Ann…I checked out RCP and did not find any articles about Obama written by Europeans..am I looking in the wrong place?
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no Ann is just making stuff up again… she fits “facts” to match her fantasy. But that’s why we love her

What’s fascinating today is that a lot of those same ideas have migrated now to the left. They are fiercely passionate about not allowing the usual crud with this presidency. (No Obama fingers allowed, even in Germany!) Also, buy American has become fashionable again. And the big doo-dah over KOS comments about how conservatives are those who buy guns and kill people is another example of gross generalizations being “in” right now.

It’s an interesting time we live in. We’re liable to meet all types of people at our next favorite issue rally. In a way, it’s so divided it’s now merging.

But….it sounded logical.

I “think” the point the right-wing radio guys are making is that Obama is sounding like an apologist.

BTW, the British press is ripping him today, too. The articles are on RCP. (They think he’s long-winded and a bit of a bore.)

There was a fascinating author last night on John Bachelor who gives a thorough history of the Darfor region. He has a much less stereotypical view, of course.

http://www.queerty.com/americas-lgbt-community-must-support-iraqs-gays-lesbians-20090405/

I am not really seeing much of a difference between Bush and Obama when it comes to this issue. Folks are still being murdered. Maybe they don’t deserve my tax dollars any longer.

GeoT says:
06 April 2009 at 1:06 pm

update from planet Bachmann:

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She’s either off her meds or hasn’t seen her therapist in awhile.
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when you’re in league with Hannity and Beck you have to be louder and crazier than the next guy I guess.

update from planet Bachmann:

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She’s either off her meds or hasn’t seen her therapist in awhile. What is wrong with people like her? Are they living in some parallel universe? I couldn’t think like that in a million years.

U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann says she fears the Obama Administration will set up “re-education camps for young people, where young people have to go and get trained in a philosophy that the government puts forward…

http://minnesotaindependent.com/31237/bachmann-reedcuation-camps

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But you will admit they have to have a starting point for their rants and I think that that whole bunch come from a very slanted and perverted world view thinking.

The President will meet with religious leaders in Istanbul tomorrow morning. Following the meeting, he will tour the Hagia Sophia and the Blue Mosque with Prime Minister Erdogan. The Hagia Sophia, or Aya Sofya was formerly a basilica, then a mosque, and now a museum that is considered an embodiment of Byzantine architecture. Completed in 537, it was the world’s largest religious monument until 1520.

The Sultan Ahmed Mosque, also known as the Blue Mosque, is one of Istanbul’s most famous landmarks and is the national mosque of Turkey. It is located in the heart of old town, facing the Hagia Sophia. The Blue Mosque was built by Sultan Ahmet I between 1609 and 1616 in Sultanahmet Square. It is called the Blue Mosque because of the thousands of hand-painted Iznik tiles that adorn its interior.

In the afternoon, the President will hold a town hall with students at the Tophane Cultural Center. The majority of participating students, ranging in age from eighteen to twenty-six, are from universities across the country including international students from Kosovo, Korea and Albania currently studying in Turkey. The remaining students are former participants of US State Department programs, including the Student Leader Program, Fulbright, Youth Exchange Study (YES), Youth Exchange Program (YEP) and the Summer Work & Travel program.

Later in the afternoon, President Obama will depart Istanbul for Washington, DC, returning in the evening. The arrival on the South Lawn is open press.

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There’s a whole history of the Turks in Germany beginning in the 1960s when Germany needed workers and allowed the Turks to come in and work. It’s not a pretty history and a lot of prejudice surrounds the German/Turkish relationship. Until recently children born in Germany to Turkish parents were not granted citizenship. At some point in the mid to 1980s I believe the German government tried to deport Turks who had lived in Germany for many years including those who had been born there. Like I said it’s not a pretty history and rather convolluted.

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djjl says:
06 April 2009 at 12:11 pm

“AnninCA says:
06 April 2009 at 11:09 am

In reality, Obama’s remarks are very similar to Bush’s, so I can’t picture how this will exactly work out as a campaign item.”

The real difference is the credibility of who is making the remarks. As I’ve said previously, if W told me 2 + 2= 4 , I’d pull out a calculator.

Hannity and ilk, again are not into discussing any of this with any concern about principle or policy – it’s about keeping their audience entertained.

In reality, Obama’s remarks are very similar to Bush’s, so I can’t picture how this will exactly work out as a campaign item.”

The real difference is the credibility of who is making the remarks. As I’ve said previously, if W told be 2 + = 4 , I’d pull out a calculator.

EVERYBODY should STFU and let these countries work things out for themselves, without outside interference of any political stripe. That, I think, is what Obama means when he says “There is a simple truth to this story: Turkey’s democracy is your own achievement. It was not forced upon you by any outside power, nor did it come without struggle and sacrifice.”

I say let ‘em go full steam ahead. The clearer the delineation between Hannity’s crowd and those of us who want engagement and progress in our foreign policy the better. Jim Baker, no shrinking violet of a liberal was on GPS with Fareed Zacharia and he spoke very favorably about this administration policies. His quote “you make peace with your enemies, not your friends. …”
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Foreign Policy: Jim Baker gives Obama high marks

http://www.examiner.com/x-2086-NY-Foreign-Policy-Examiner~y2009m4d5-Foreign-Policy-Jim-Baker-gives-Obama-high-marks

My guess is that Malkin is no different from Limbaugh, Hannity, etc. They are not in this based on principle – they are willing to prostitute themselves for the money. I think that is called a whore. Of the lowest form – it’s not like they are doing it to survive. They do it because they don’t mind whoring.

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What Malkin and her ilk fail to realize is that they are just as bad as the fringe elements of Islam.

This happened here a couple weeks ago. This wasn’t far from my home. Only a short distance from my daughter’s apartment.

http://www.nwanews.com/adg/National/255678/print/

The Antonetz’s attend church with us. I do know that he supported Obama. He’s a public health dentist for the VA.

The reason, according to my friends, is because Iranians in Germany have adapted to the language, etc., while the Turks have not.

Gee, this reminds me a lot of prejudice everywhere.

I guess some stuff is universal.