Comments on: Obama, Democrats, and Reconciliation

By: morris1030

morris1030 — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 03:46:42 +0000

I think I listened to a witless Obama ranting on about everything including the very revealing slip to Diane Sawyer. The word “real” is the stinker.

I don’t think he’ll get a second term, and as others have said here that he probably won’t want one.

He simply cannot lead in this complex moment. Obama lacks the political experience or smarts to weather this without being hugely disappointing. This speech was a professional rah rah.

Some of the stuff about freeezes,jobs, was ridiculous particularly as I saw Geithner sitting up front reminding us as to which side he’s really on.

Reagan was a movement conservative and as such had come from Gov of Ca with his movement intact. He was authentic. I totally disliked his politics and policies, but he was authentic and therefore he connected.

Obama has no movement because Obama WAS the movement. It was all about him and nothing else and we’re seeing that now. The lack of an authentic moral center is immediately apparent along with his open longing to be considered Reagan like.

There is going to be continued disillusionment.

By: BC30

BC30 — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:29:48 +0000

I’ve got $20 that says he doesn’t even want to be president in term 2. And if so, some circumstance might come up where he will be able to get out and look okay doing it. He’ll then set-up some foundation (though, I’m not which 1 cause he is truly and deeply passionate about to sink all of his energy into) and write another book.

By: Polling the State, Srewing the People | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com – News, Opinion and Weblog on Progressive Politics

Tue, 26 Jan 2010 05:25:45 +0000

[...] we can all put to rest any sincerity the nonsense Mr. Obama said to Diane Sawyer about being only a one-term president, which was simply the wind up for the State of the Union pitch on Wednesday. Obama playing the role [...]

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By: djjl

djjl — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:58:07 +0000

Thank you karmax
good nite all too

By: Lake Lady

Lake Lady — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:49:18 +0000

Nite all~

By: karmax

karmax — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:49:08 +0000

Lake Lady…thank you. I finally find someone as disgusted as I am. I have been depressed about it, now I am angry and I hate to watch the next three years. I don’t watch the news like I used to. I need to work and don’t want to stay too upset to rest. Thank heavens I still have a job (for now, anyway).

By: Lake Lady

Lake Lady — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:48:43 +0000

I don’t think Hillary is grinning. She is probably sick. She cares about the country.

By: Lake Lady

Lake Lady — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:46:24 +0000

I know! I never imagined what a fiasco this would all turn out to be.

By: karmax

karmax — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:44:24 +0000

Hillary has to be privately grinning and smirking. I would. Everybody dumped on her…this spineless Senate stabbed her for Obama and what a dumb mess. She has BALLS…this idiot President we have is just a community organizer…beyond that he is gutless…what a disgrace. I waited for eight years, so angry and George W. Bush….then he was gone, I wanted Hillary, settled for Obama because I thought it HAS to be better….good grief this is the biggest disappointment I have had in all my years of voting…This is a total embarrassment. He is a big fat ZERO. Yes, he gives a good speech. I think all bullshitters can talk great. That’s what we have here. Watch, the next three years will be painful to watch. When cornered, when things are down, he does NOTHING….he is running scared, you can see it….he peaked two months in….it is over. Negative???? NO…I am realistic.

By: texan4hillary

texan4hillary — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:36:29 +0000

i swear canada is looking really better and better. single payer, public finance etc.. here we are with huge dem majorities terrified of pushing the rules to get things done. all the work of 06 and 08 i- and u- have done to gain a net 12 seats in the sen and 40 in the house is about to be whiped out baring a miracle here. we could lose 9 or 10 sen seats and the house.

By: texan4hillary

texan4hillary — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:31:57 +0000

i think obama is a bloomberg independant. im sorry but his policies arent what dems stand for. and i still cant believe biden gamed the de system to get a placeholder fo rhis son then turns out beu didnt really want it. every day now we are losing seats we shouldnt here. a fiasco of epic nature.

By: Lake Lady

Lake Lady — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:31:50 +0000

He is trying to tiangulate. Going out and tellng the rubes he is fighting for them and then caving to right wing ideology. He thinks he can get the independents back that way. He was just feining left for a day.

By: texan4hillary

texan4hillary — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:27:19 +0000

its 330 am now. is anybody there?

By: texan4hillary

texan4hillary — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:26:03 +0000

obama admin holds presser with liberal bloggers tonight announcing a 3 yr budget freeze on some spending. hoover tried that. fdr tried to control spending in 37 and lost the new deal in 38 as conservatives swept into congress. the wh tells its cheif critics it will do something gingrich wanted to do? god help us all.
http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2010/01/obama-budget-to-call-for-freeze-in-non-security-discretionary-spending.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+matthewyglesias+%28Matthew+Yglesias%29

By: mgloraine

mgloraine — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:24:23 +0000

Great, so now our fearless leader has had a brain-storm and has seen the light: it’s time for a SPENDING FREEZE!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/25/obama-spending-freeze-the_n_436244.html

That’ll really get that economic recovery underway!

So is Obama actually a clueless half-wit, or is he deliberately trying to tank the economy for a decade? Stupid or malicious? Whose advice or orders is he following?

By: Lake Lady

Lake Lady — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 01:20:56 +0000

I’m sorry ….IMhotep

By: Lake Lady

Lake Lady — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 01:19:50 +0000

Once in a blue moon I completely agree with you Inhotep..lol

By: Lake Lady

Lake Lady — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 01:17:55 +0000

I really would not be surprised if he has no intention of running again.I don’t think he is having any fun.If you have lived a relativly charmed life as a politician and suddenly the entire world has expectations. I keep remembering Michelle warning people during the primary that this was it for them. They would probably not ever run again if they lost the primary. I don’t think their priorities have ever been about making a material difference in the lives of average americans.

By: Imhotep

Imhotep — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 01:15:58 +0000

If Obama causes every incumbant to be voted out of office in 2010 he will go down in history as the greatest president of all time. Peace

By: Imhotep

Imhotep — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 01:13:56 +0000

Lake Lady, NOT!!!! Peace

By: Lake Lady

Lake Lady — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 01:09:13 +0000

Obama should be on the phone with Bill Clinton everyday.

By: mgloraine

mgloraine — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 01:07:10 +0000

Plouffe is busy with the message thing already:

http://rawstory.com/2010/01/democrats-dropping-ban-preexisting-conditions/

He’s letting everyone know very gently that the ban on pre-existing conditions – a core principle of the supposed reforms – is being dropped, retaining the ban ONLY for those under age 19.

See? Every day they find a way to make HCR WORSE. There are no Congressional Democrats or anyone from the White House working to improve the bill through reconciliation; that’s just wishful thinking from bloggers. They haven’t yet realized that Obama REALLY IS planning on doing everything the big-money lobbies demand on each and every issue, regardless of how really devastating it is to the common people. He has sided with the billionaires and abandoned the peasants.

There’s no way this is going to work out well for Democrats in 2010. The White House really hasn’t understood the disaffection of the voters, and are still thinking they can just reword their BS or lay it on thicker and everyone will somehow be reassured that the Senate bill as-is is something other than a complete disaster for the populace. The Democrats will probably lose majorities in both houses this year, and it will be Obama’s fault.

It would be great if Obama could be a really good one-term President, but that’s looking more and more like wishful thinking on HIS part. He’s got the “one-term” part in the bag, but being a really good President usually requires something more than making the ultra-wealthy richer at the expense of the common folk.

By: Imhotep

Imhotep — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 01:06:05 +0000

Don’t you love it when Obama takes a shot at Bill Clinton? I know that I do. Congress will pass a health care bill by April 1st. Because ‘they’ were never going to give us universal health care by extending Medicare to everyone, the bill that they pass will be what we were going to get from ‘them’ all along. I see that the Father of NAFTA Robert Mosbacher died yesterday. Bush the Elders Secretary of Commerce from 1989 to 1992. Also the Director of the American Petroleum Institute, the Texas Commerce Bank and the New York Life Insurance Company. Is it any wonder why NAFTA has been such a bad deal for the American worker? Peace

By: Lake Lady

Lake Lady — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 01:05:12 +0000

If they are all going down in flames they might as well go down for something meaningful. Of course that might put a chill on their future lobbying jobs.I really do hate being so cynical.It is not my nature.

By: Noogan

Noogan — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 01:02:25 +0000

The Stimulus Bill is related to the Health Care Reform Bill. Who Knew? Congressman Thad McCotter has introduced a bill to negate the policies Obama put into the Stimulus package:

http://biggovernment.com/2010/01/24/health-care-reform-the-dog-that-was-not-allowed-to-bark/

By: Lake Lady

Lake Lady — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 01:01:46 +0000

Poof wants everyone to have house parties for the SOTU.He talks about the”movement” having come to far to give up now.Do they have ANY idea what they have done to their own grassroots?

By: Lake Lady

Lake Lady — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 00:58:46 +0000

They should just suck in a great big breath and open medicare to anyone who wants to buy in,period.With the caution that they are going to need to revisit medicare and fix some problems with it’s financing long term. Everyone understands medicare and it’s pros and cons,it is already an existing,organized bureaucracy and it could start up fast.Then raise the ceiling on poverty for substidies.Anyone who is happy with their current arrangement with the insurance industry can keep it.