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> <channel><title>Comments on: What Did They Pay You To Give Up Your Dreams?</title> <atom:link href="http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/01/what-did-they-pay-you-to-give-up-your-dreams/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/01/what-did-they-pay-you-to-give-up-your-dreams/</link> <description>Taylor Marsh - News, Political Analysis, Foreign Policy, and  Independent Political Opinion on Progressive Politics</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:49:46 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1</generator> <item><title>By: Taylor Marsh</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/01/what-did-they-pay-you-to-give-up-your-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-456983</link> <dc:creator>Taylor Marsh</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 23:19:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=47098#comment-456983</guid> <description>First, thanks djjl for taking the time to welcome people, which is very cool of you!alphonsegaston says:
04 January 2010 at 4:55 pmThat comment was worth the wait. ;-)  Glad we finally got the password snafu fixed.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, thanks djjl for taking the time to welcome people, which is very cool of you!</p><p>alphonsegaston says:<br
/> 04 January 2010 at 4:55 pm</p><p>That comment was worth the wait. <img
src='http://taylormarsh.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> Glad we finally got the password snafu fixed.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: djjl</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/01/what-did-they-pay-you-to-give-up-your-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-456981</link> <dc:creator>djjl</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:05:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=47098#comment-456981</guid> <description>Thank you AlphoseGaston, thank you.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you AlphoseGaston, thank you.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: alphonsegaston</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/01/what-did-they-pay-you-to-give-up-your-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-456980</link> <dc:creator>alphonsegaston</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 21:55:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=47098#comment-456980</guid> <description>Taylor, exactly.  At my age, I view this as the question, how to both live in the moment and recognize one&#039;s placement in the stream of time.  After retiring from the university and living through four years of caregiving to my very ill husband when I read only news and light fiction, I began to read histories of Africa, Australia, Latin America.  All these were topics I knew absolutely nothing about, my work being nineteenth century American literature &amp; popular culture studies.  One immediate effect was to compare the colonialist treatment of these places with our own Iraq War and other recent atrocities.  That gave me a sense of there being no real progress in human affairs.  It also validated a Christian perspective on human nature--sin is a natural part of human existense.  And also, my favorable view of Castro, warts and all--when seen in the context of what I had read of Latin American history.But that did not cause me to think that doing nothing is an option.  Instead, it gave me a sense of being a participant in an ages-long struggle for peace and justice.  Just because we don&#039;t win all the time, we should not become bitter.I know that your piece relates more to one&#039;s personal choices than communal ones.  Grabbing for what looks like a good solution without thinking it through to the end--what do you really want--is an eternal human response.  I can easily see how it relates to the new status of women in the economy, of course.  And beyond that, to the new status of America on the world stage.Happy New Year!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taylor, exactly.  At my age, I view this as the question, how to both live in the moment and recognize one&#8217;s placement in the stream of time.  After retiring from the university and living through four years of caregiving to my very ill husband when I read only news and light fiction, I began to read histories of Africa, Australia, Latin America.  All these were topics I knew absolutely nothing about, my work being nineteenth century American literature &amp; popular culture studies.  One immediate effect was to compare the colonialist treatment of these places with our own Iraq War and other recent atrocities.  That gave me a sense of there being no real progress in human affairs.  It also validated a Christian perspective on human nature&#8211;sin is a natural part of human existense.  And also, my favorable view of Castro, warts and all&#8211;when seen in the context of what I had read of Latin American history.</p><p>But that did not cause me to think that doing nothing is an option.  Instead, it gave me a sense of being a participant in an ages-long struggle for peace and justice.  Just because we don&#8217;t win all the time, we should not become bitter.</p><p>I know that your piece relates more to one&#8217;s personal choices than communal ones.  Grabbing for what looks like a good solution without thinking it through to the end&#8211;what do you really want&#8211;is an eternal human response.  I can easily see how it relates to the new status of women in the economy, of course.  And beyond that, to the new status of America on the world stage.</p><p>Happy New Year!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: djjl</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/01/what-did-they-pay-you-to-give-up-your-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-456970</link> <dc:creator>djjl</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 18:51:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=47098#comment-456970</guid> <description>Happy New Year to all!Thank you TaosJohn!  You too Don Bacon.  RD, nice to see you.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy New Year to all!</p><p>Thank you TaosJohn!  You too Don Bacon.  RD, nice to see you.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Don Bacon</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/01/what-did-they-pay-you-to-give-up-your-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-456952</link> <dc:creator>Don Bacon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:38:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=47098#comment-456952</guid> <description>. . .are simple and sensible but are rarely stated in a convincing manner.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>. . .are simple and sensible but are rarely stated in a convincing manner.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Don Bacon</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/01/what-did-they-pay-you-to-give-up-your-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-456951</link> <dc:creator>Don Bacon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:35:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=47098#comment-456951</guid> <description>I suppose it&#039;s possible to live a happy and fulfilled life without reading Thoreau but I wouldn&#039;t recommend it. His truths a</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose it&#8217;s possible to live a happy and fulfilled life without reading Thoreau but I wouldn&#8217;t recommend it. His truths a</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Taylor Marsh</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/01/what-did-they-pay-you-to-give-up-your-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-456949</link> <dc:creator>Taylor Marsh</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:10:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=47098#comment-456949</guid> <description>Well, Don Bacon, to be a companion with Henry David Thoreau in any way at all is a supreme honor.Not a bad way to begin the New Year either. Considering I now begin in earnest a dream project, which I will share with all of you when it gets fully off the ground, your comment will act as treasured inspiration, indeed.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Don Bacon, to be a companion with Henry David Thoreau in any way at all is a supreme honor.</p><p>Not a bad way to begin the New Year either. Considering I now begin in earnest a dream project, which I will share with all of you when it gets fully off the ground, your comment will act as treasured inspiration, indeed.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Don Bacon</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/01/what-did-they-pay-you-to-give-up-your-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-456932</link> <dc:creator>Don Bacon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 05:21:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=47098#comment-456932</guid> <description>Another reason to read Thoreau as well as Marsh (as if we needed one).&quot;We attract the life we want. We envision it first, and depending on the courage we have to hold it in our mind’s eye ignoring the noise of habit and rules, through our infinite patience, as Wayne Dyer says, we are delivered the life we dream possible.&quot;--Taylor Marsh&quot;I learned this, at least, by my experiment; that  if one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life which he has imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours.&quot;--Henry David Thoreau, Walden&quot;If you stop moving, quit exploring, settle in and down, it’s only a matter of time before you get eaten up, either from the outside or the inside.&quot;--Taylor Marsh&quot;How worn and dusty, then, must be the highways of the world, how deep the ruts of tradition and conformity! I do not wish to take a cabin passage, but rather go before the mast and on the deck of the world, for there I could best see the moonlight amid the mountains. I do not wish to go below now.&quot;--Henry David Thoreau, Walden</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another reason to read Thoreau as well as Marsh (as if we needed one).</p><p>&#8220;We attract the life we want. We envision it first, and depending on the courage we have to hold it in our mind’s eye ignoring the noise of habit and rules, through our infinite patience, as Wayne Dyer says, we are delivered the life we dream possible.&#8221;&#8211;Taylor Marsh</p><p>&#8220;I learned this, at least, by my experiment; that  if one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life which he has imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours.&#8221;&#8211;Henry David Thoreau, Walden</p><p>&#8220;If you stop moving, quit exploring, settle in and down, it’s only a matter of time before you get eaten up, either from the outside or the inside.&#8221;&#8211;Taylor Marsh</p><p>&#8220;How worn and dusty, then, must be the highways of the world, how deep the ruts of tradition and conformity! I do not wish to take a cabin passage, but rather go before the mast and on the deck of the world, for there I could best see the moonlight amid the mountains. I do not wish to go below now.&#8221;&#8211;Henry David Thoreau, Walden</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Imhotep</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/01/what-did-they-pay-you-to-give-up-your-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-456927</link> <dc:creator>Imhotep</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 00:37:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=47098#comment-456927</guid> <description>Now that Imhotep is meandering slowly past the half finished stained glass images and down the empty corridors of secular&#039;s oh so rigid noggin, who could ask for anything more?  Singing in the rain, singing in the rain, I&#039;m singimg in the rain.  And a clockwork orange to one and all.  Peace</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that Imhotep is meandering slowly past the half finished stained glass images and down the empty corridors of secular&#8217;s oh so rigid noggin, who could ask for anything more?  Singing in the rain, singing in the rain, I&#8217;m singimg in the rain.  And a clockwork orange to one and all.  Peace</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Taylor Marsh</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/01/what-did-they-pay-you-to-give-up-your-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-456923</link> <dc:creator>Taylor Marsh</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:10:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=47098#comment-456923</guid> <description>Heya RD... and Happy New Year.Indeed, TJ.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heya RD&#8230; and Happy New Year.</p><p>Indeed, TJ.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: TaosJohn</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/01/what-did-they-pay-you-to-give-up-your-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-456922</link> <dc:creator>TaosJohn</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:02:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=47098#comment-456922</guid> <description>Ah so. Yes. And there are also all kinds of time. Chronological time as we know it is just one of them. What goes on inside isn&#039;t necessarily pegged to that at all.Happy New Year to you, too.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah so. Yes. And there are also all kinds of time. Chronological time as we know it is just one of them. What goes on inside isn&#8217;t necessarily pegged to that at all.</p><p>Happy New Year to you, too.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: RD</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/01/what-did-they-pay-you-to-give-up-your-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-456921</link> <dc:creator>RD</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 15:54:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=47098#comment-456921</guid> <description>Wow.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Taylor Marsh</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/01/what-did-they-pay-you-to-give-up-your-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-456918</link> <dc:creator>Taylor Marsh</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 15:46:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=47098#comment-456918</guid> <description>Happy New Year, TaosJohn.&lt;i&gt;Not strategizing, not being clever, not winning the intellectual argument, but doing what we really and truly WANT is how we evolve and keep moving.&lt;/i&gt;Very well said.On the &quot;or not,&quot; my point was to say that if we do not have infinite patience, as people often expect their manifestations to materialize instantly, not realizing that 10 years is nothing because it&#039;s the journey that matters, we often leave our dreams unmet through our own lack of purpose on the arc of life.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy New Year, TaosJohn.</p><p><i>Not strategizing, not being clever, not winning the intellectual argument, but doing what we really and truly WANT is how we evolve and keep moving.</i></p><p>Very well said.</p><p>On the &#8220;or not,&#8221; my point was to say that if we do not have infinite patience, as people often expect their manifestations to materialize instantly, not realizing that 10 years is nothing because it&#8217;s the journey that matters, we often leave our dreams unmet through our own lack of purpose on the arc of life.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: TaosJohn</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/01/what-did-they-pay-you-to-give-up-your-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-456917</link> <dc:creator>TaosJohn</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 15:39:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=47098#comment-456917</guid> <description>I registered here just so I could comment on this post, which is probably more important than 1,000 political observations...You are absolutely right. The only thing I&#039;d change is to edit out the &quot;Or not,&quot; because that sabotages the message, as in &quot;this medicine won&#039;t work if you think of a monkey while you&#039;re taking it.&quot; We most certainly do attract the life we want, or think we want. There are always more layers to the onion. The ONLY way out of the woods is to focus on what you want. There is no other rule. Slowly, slowly I am learning this, and I&#039;m a relatively ancient 64-year-old still being born.What I have learned in the last 10 years is that there&#039;s never any rest, there&#039;s never any plateau we reach where things are &quot;settled&quot; and &quot;secure.&quot; It may seem like there is, but that&#039;s a temporary illusion, because the only constant is change.Not strategizing, not being clever, not winning the intellectual argument, but doing what we really and truly WANT is how we evolve and keep moving. For most people, ascertaining just what that is, is the hardest thing they&#039;ll ever do. So many of us are trained to do precisely the opposite, or to believe that we have &quot;made it&quot; and can stop growing.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I registered here just so I could comment on this post, which is probably more important than 1,000 political observations&#8230;</p><p>You are absolutely right. The only thing I&#8217;d change is to edit out the &#8220;Or not,&#8221; because that sabotages the message, as in &#8220;this medicine won&#8217;t work if you think of a monkey while you&#8217;re taking it.&#8221; We most certainly do attract the life we want, or think we want. There are always more layers to the onion. The ONLY way out of the woods is to focus on what you want. There is no other rule. Slowly, slowly I am learning this, and I&#8217;m a relatively ancient 64-year-old still being born.</p><p>What I have learned in the last 10 years is that there&#8217;s never any rest, there&#8217;s never any plateau we reach where things are &#8220;settled&#8221; and &#8220;secure.&#8221; It may seem like there is, but that&#8217;s a temporary illusion, because the only constant is change.</p><p>Not strategizing, not being clever, not winning the intellectual argument, but doing what we really and truly WANT is how we evolve and keep moving. For most people, ascertaining just what that is, is the hardest thing they&#8217;ll ever do. So many of us are trained to do precisely the opposite, or to believe that we have &#8220;made it&#8221; and can stop growing.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Taylor Marsh</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/01/what-did-they-pay-you-to-give-up-your-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-456916</link> <dc:creator>Taylor Marsh</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 15:36:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=47098#comment-456916</guid> <description>&lt;i&gt;Maybe it’s time to sink back into the moment of my art and just exist from moment to moment. After all that/this moment is all I really have. All I really, REALLY know. I’m gonna go work on some glass.&lt;/i&gt;...and there you have it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Maybe it’s time to sink back into the moment of my art and just exist from moment to moment. After all that/this moment is all I really have. All I really, REALLY know. I’m gonna go work on some glass.</i></p><p>&#8230;and there you have it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: secularhumanizinevoluter</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/01/what-did-they-pay-you-to-give-up-your-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-456915</link> <dc:creator>secularhumanizinevoluter</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 15:34:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=47098#comment-456915</guid> <description>What do you/I want? A good question. Many layers of questions.
Since we met some 17 years or so ago I have driven my wife crazy because I live so much in the moment. I never plan anything beyond what matirials are needed to do the project I&#039;m slave to right now.
Stage, painting, glass it&#039;s always about the image in my head and making it real. But even if I never finish the painting, glass panel or do the play that moment in time, that brush stroke, that running of a score in the glass, that memorization of a line and then internalizing it, living it, THAT moment is the most important. The most beautiful.
I forced myself to,for the first time in a LOOOOONG time,to try to look ahead, to plan, to work for a far off goal. Then the primaries were over and the futility of that effort was a bitter meal to dine on.
Then the election and for a moment hope flaired bright...only to be doused by the drowning mediocracy and pandering of the administration.
Don&#039;t get me wrong, I realize how much better we are under Obama then the repugs. But to see such a once in a lifetime oppertunity, such a pure clear vision by most of the people in this country be dimmed and exstinguished by professional DEAL makers. Well, it has only reinforced my previouse notions on planning ahead.
I feel myself becoming discouraged with politics. The bad guys and corrupt seem to win even when they lose. And when they WIN, don&#039;t even THINK about the trully evil uglyness of what they do.
So the GOOD guys won, and we have....... luke warm spit.
One thing I learned in the Army was how transitory life is. One moment you are alive and full of dreams and feelings and hopes and fears. The next you are a pile of shredded meat cooling to the ambiant temperature even as the flies settle on what was you.
I&#039;m thinking I don&#039;t have time for this nonsense anymore.
With the likes of POA and imhopless, people supposedly on the &quot;right&quot; side of issues so completely divorced from reality and ready to eat their own and the likes of the Teabaggers and Birthers and the UUUberchisties......
Maybe it&#039;s time to sink back into the moment of my art and just exist from moment to moment.
After all that/this moment is all I really have. All I really, REALLY know.
I&#039;m gonna go work on some glass.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you/I want? A good question. Many layers of questions.<br
/> Since we met some 17 years or so ago I have driven my wife crazy because I live so much in the moment. I never plan anything beyond what matirials are needed to do the project I&#8217;m slave to right now.<br
/> Stage, painting, glass it&#8217;s always about the image in my head and making it real. But even if I never finish the painting, glass panel or do the play that moment in time, that brush stroke, that running of a score in the glass, that memorization of a line and then internalizing it, living it, THAT moment is the most important. The most beautiful.<br
/> I forced myself to,for the first time in a LOOOOONG time,to try to look ahead, to plan, to work for a far off goal. Then the primaries were over and the futility of that effort was a bitter meal to dine on.<br
/> Then the election and for a moment hope flaired bright&#8230;only to be doused by the drowning mediocracy and pandering of the administration.<br
/> Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I realize how much better we are under Obama then the repugs. But to see such a once in a lifetime oppertunity, such a pure clear vision by most of the people in this country be dimmed and exstinguished by professional DEAL makers. Well, it has only reinforced my previouse notions on planning ahead.<br
/> I feel myself becoming discouraged with politics. The bad guys and corrupt seem to win even when they lose. And when they WIN, don&#8217;t even THINK about the trully evil uglyness of what they do.<br
/> So the GOOD guys won, and we have&#8230;&#8230;. luke warm spit.<br
/> One thing I learned in the Army was how transitory life is. One moment you are alive and full of dreams and feelings and hopes and fears. The next you are a pile of shredded meat cooling to the ambiant temperature even as the flies settle on what was you.<br
/> I&#8217;m thinking I don&#8217;t have time for this nonsense anymore.<br
/> With the likes of POA and imhopless, people supposedly on the &#8220;right&#8221; side of issues so completely divorced from reality and ready to eat their own and the likes of the Teabaggers and Birthers and the UUUberchisties&#8230;&#8230;<br
/> Maybe it&#8217;s time to sink back into the moment of my art and just exist from moment to moment.<br
/> After all that/this moment is all I really have. All I really, REALLY know.<br
/> I&#8217;m gonna go work on some glass.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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