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> <channel><title>Comments on: OBAMA&#8217;S $3.8 TRILLION BUDGET</title> <atom:link href="http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/02/obamas-3-8-trillion-budget/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/02/obamas-3-8-trillion-budget/</link> <description>Taylor Marsh - News, Political Analysis, Foreign Policy, and  Independent Political Opinion on Progressive Politics</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:44:43 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1</generator> <item><title>By: Imhotep</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/02/obamas-3-8-trillion-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-460749</link> <dc:creator>Imhotep</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 00:25:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=49502#comment-460749</guid> <description>ogenec, you&#039;re half right.  Nobody knew what derivatives were.  When they found out it was far too late to do a damn thing about the trading of or assigning actual risks to default swaps.  The ship was already sinking.  Peace</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ogenec, you&#8217;re half right.  Nobody knew what derivatives were.  When they found out it was far too late to do a damn thing about the trading of or assigning actual risks to default swaps.  The ship was already sinking.  Peace</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: OBAMA&#39;S $3.8 TRILLION BUDGET &#124; Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com &#8230; Just To Me</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/02/obamas-3-8-trillion-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-460739</link> <dc:creator>OBAMA&#39;S $3.8 TRILLION BUDGET &#124; Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com &#8230; Just To Me</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 23:32:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
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isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=49502#comment-460731</guid> <description>Thanks for all the economic advice, everyone. I will try to study it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all the economic advice, everyone. I will try to study it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: djjl</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/02/obamas-3-8-trillion-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-460724</link> <dc:creator>djjl</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:43:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=49502#comment-460724</guid> <description>bbl</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bbl</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: djjl</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/02/obamas-3-8-trillion-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-460721</link> <dc:creator>djjl</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:35:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=49502#comment-460721</guid> <description>I agree with that part -  &quot;having anyone to protect the public&quot; is not how we got into it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with that part &#8211;  &#8220;having anyone to protect the public&#8221; is not how we got into it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ogenec</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/02/obamas-3-8-trillion-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-460718</link> <dc:creator>ogenec</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:21:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=49502#comment-460718</guid> <description>djjl says:
01 February 2010 at 2:17 pm
That isn’t how we got into this – it was some were too important to be investigated and had too many friends in high places to question.
_______________________That is absolutely how we got into this.  no one regulated derivatives, which is what default swaps are.  And the reason they didn&#039;t is because no one could agree on whether they should be regulated, or if they should, which regulatory agency should do it.  SEC and CFTC had huge fights about this, culminating in the Shad-Johnson accord.  Which was undone by the Commodities Futures Modernization Act of 2000.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>djjl says:<br
/> 01 February 2010 at 2:17 pm<br
/> That isn’t how we got into this – it was some were too important to be investigated and had too many friends in high places to question.<br
/> _______________________</p><p>That is absolutely how we got into this.  no one regulated derivatives, which is what default swaps are.  And the reason they didn&#8217;t is because no one could agree on whether they should be regulated, or if they should, which regulatory agency should do it.  SEC and CFTC had huge fights about this, culminating in the Shad-Johnson accord.  Which was undone by the Commodities Futures Modernization Act of 2000.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ogenec</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/02/obamas-3-8-trillion-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-460716</link> <dc:creator>ogenec</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:17:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=49502#comment-460716</guid> <description>Iceblinkjm says:
01 February 2010 at 2:08 pm
OK Clarence.
_________________Don&#039;t get me started on THAT subject.  If you&#039;re throwing that out as a perjorative, then its clear you know really don&#039;t know anything about the man&#039;s jurisprudence.  To say nothing of me.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iceblinkjm says:<br
/> 01 February 2010 at 2:08 pm<br
/> OK Clarence.<br
/> _________________</p><p>Don&#8217;t get me started on THAT subject.  If you&#8217;re throwing that out as a perjorative, then its clear you know really don&#8217;t know anything about the man&#8217;s jurisprudence.  To say nothing of me.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: djjl</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/02/obamas-3-8-trillion-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-460715</link> <dc:creator>djjl</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:17:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=49502#comment-460715</guid> <description>That isn&#039;t how we got into this - it was some were too important to be investigated and had too many friends in high places to question.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That isn&#8217;t how we got into this &#8211; it was some were too important to be investigated and had too many friends in high places to question.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ogenec</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/02/obamas-3-8-trillion-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-460714</link> <dc:creator>ogenec</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:09:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=49502#comment-460714</guid> <description>I don&#039;t care about its provenance.  I care whether it&#039;s right.  And it&#039;s right.  the reason we got into this mess with derivatives is because the two agencies were fighting over which had jurisdiction.  The CFTC and the SEC.  both were formed to ensure safety of the consumer, but each was concerned only with its dominance.  CFTC needs to be merged into SEC -- there is no longer a meaningful distinction between commodities and securities.  And consumer protection at bank level needs to go to Treasury, leaving Fed with safety and soundness mandate.The problem has not been the institutions; it&#039;s been the lack of leadership.  Mary Shapiro is an excellent leader, and together with Warren and Bair, will &quot;truly protect the consumer.&quot;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t care about its provenance.  I care whether it&#8217;s right.  And it&#8217;s right.  the reason we got into this mess with derivatives is because the two agencies were fighting over which had jurisdiction.  The CFTC and the SEC.  both were formed to ensure safety of the consumer, but each was concerned only with its dominance.  CFTC needs to be merged into SEC &#8212; there is no longer a meaningful distinction between commodities and securities.  And consumer protection at bank level needs to go to Treasury, leaving Fed with safety and soundness mandate.</p><p>The problem has not been the institutions; it&#8217;s been the lack of leadership.  Mary Shapiro is an excellent leader, and together with Warren and Bair, will &#8220;truly protect the consumer.&#8221;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Taylor Marsh</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/02/obamas-3-8-trillion-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-460713</link> <dc:creator>Taylor Marsh</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:09:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
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01 February 2010 at 1:51 pmYou don&#039;t start where you want to end up. You aim high. If health care taught people anything this is it, though obviously many didn&#039;t learn the lesson.However, I&#039;m not surprised in the era of Obama Democrats are buying Republican talking points. It&#039;s the in thing.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iceblinkjm says:<br
/> 01 February 2010 at 1:51 pm</p><p>You don&#8217;t start where you want to end up. You aim high. If health care taught people anything this is it, though obviously many didn&#8217;t learn the lesson.</p><p>However, I&#8217;m not surprised in the era of Obama Democrats are buying Republican talking points. It&#8217;s the in thing.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Iceblinkjm</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/02/obamas-3-8-trillion-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-460712</link> <dc:creator>Iceblinkjm</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:08:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=49502#comment-460712</guid> <description>OK Clarence.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK Clarence.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: djjl</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/02/obamas-3-8-trillion-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-460711</link> <dc:creator>djjl</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:03:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=49502#comment-460711</guid> <description>That is a tired, old Republican point.  It just may be time to TRULy protect the consumer.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a tired, old Republican point.  It just may be time to TRULy protect the consumer.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ogenec</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/02/obamas-3-8-trillion-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-460710</link> <dc:creator>ogenec</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:58:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=49502#comment-460710</guid> <description>djjl says:
01 February 2010 at 1:52 pm
Why is an effort to protect the consumer “a loser.?”
_______________________Perhaps without knowing it, you&#039;ve just made my point.  I am all for protecting the consumer; I just don&#039;t thing we need another government agency to do it.  The better way is to reorganize the agencies that exist: shutter the ones that aren&#039;t effective or rendered moot, and realign the objectives of those that remain.iceblinkjm, ordinarily I&#039;d quibble with you, but I&#039;m not really up to it.  But I&#039;ll make you a friendly wager -- you won&#039;t see a new agency.  You will see regulatory realignment.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>djjl says:<br
/> 01 February 2010 at 1:52 pm<br
/> Why is an effort to protect the consumer “a loser.?”<br
/> _______________________</p><p>Perhaps without knowing it, you&#8217;ve just made my point.  I am all for protecting the consumer; I just don&#8217;t thing we need another government agency to do it.  The better way is to reorganize the agencies that exist: shutter the ones that aren&#8217;t effective or rendered moot, and realign the objectives of those that remain.</p><p>iceblinkjm, ordinarily I&#8217;d quibble with you, but I&#8217;m not really up to it.  But I&#8217;ll make you a friendly wager &#8212; you won&#8217;t see a new agency.  You will see regulatory realignment.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: djjl</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/02/obamas-3-8-trillion-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-460709</link> <dc:creator>djjl</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:52:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=49502#comment-460709</guid> <description>Why is an effort to protect the consumer &quot;a loser.?&quot;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is an effort to protect the consumer &#8220;a loser.?&#8221;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Iceblinkjm</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/02/obamas-3-8-trillion-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-460708</link> <dc:creator>Iceblinkjm</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:51:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=49502#comment-460708</guid> <description>ogenec says:
01 February 2010 at 1:45 pm
Taylor Marsh says:
01 February 2010 at 1:24 pm
This is a fight Obama needs to have, over the Consumer Financial Protection Agency
_____________________
Not if he’s smart, he won’t. It’s a loser.It&#039;s a good thing your not in politics as a strategist. That&#039;s a loosing strategy if I ever heard one.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ogenec says:<br
/> 01 February 2010 at 1:45 pm<br
/> Taylor Marsh says:<br
/> 01 February 2010 at 1:24 pm<br
/> This is a fight Obama needs to have, over the Consumer Financial Protection Agency<br
/> _____________________<br
/> Not if he’s smart, he won’t. It’s a loser.</p><p>It&#8217;s a good thing your not in politics as a strategist. That&#8217;s a loosing strategy if I ever heard one.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ogenec</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/02/obamas-3-8-trillion-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-460707</link> <dc:creator>ogenec</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:45:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=49502#comment-460707</guid> <description>Taylor Marsh says:
01 February 2010 at 1:24 pm
This is a fight Obama needs to have, over the Consumer Financial Protection Agency
_____________________Not if he&#039;s smart, he won&#039;t.  It&#039;s a loser.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taylor Marsh says:<br
/> 01 February 2010 at 1:24 pm<br
/> This is a fight Obama needs to have, over the Consumer Financial Protection Agency<br
/> _____________________</p><p>Not if he&#8217;s smart, he won&#8217;t.  It&#8217;s a loser.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Taylor Marsh</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/02/obamas-3-8-trillion-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-460705</link> <dc:creator>Taylor Marsh</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:24:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=49502#comment-460705</guid> <description>This is a fight Obama needs to have, over the Consumer Financial Protection Agency, especially since Luntz is already targeting it:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/01/frank-luntz-pens-memo-to_n_444332.html?view=print</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a fight Obama needs to have, over the Consumer Financial Protection Agency, especially since Luntz is already targeting it:</p><p><a
href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/01/frank-luntz-pens-memo-to_n_444332.html?view=print" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/01/frank-luntz-pens-memo-to_n_444332.html?view=print</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: djjl</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/02/obamas-3-8-trillion-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-460704</link> <dc:creator>djjl</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:22:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=49502#comment-460704</guid> <description>Bill Clinton is still being villifited for not being the characiture many &quot;bought into.&quot;  Makes you look silly when you buy silly stuff.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Clinton is still being villifited for not being the characiture many &#8220;bought into.&#8221;  Makes you look silly when you buy silly stuff.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Taylor Marsh</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/02/obamas-3-8-trillion-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-460703</link> <dc:creator>Taylor Marsh</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:22:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=49502#comment-460703</guid> <description>He already talked about that, kris, in his SOTU, which I wrote about as well.http://www.taylormarsh.com/2010/01/28/enough-time-for-results/http://www.businessweek.com/smallbiz/running_small_business/archives/2010/01/what_obama_said.htmlThe real pain on small biz is health care.Read Brad Delong&#039;s new book, with Stephen Cohen. You might find this interesting LL:&lt;object width=&quot;325&quot; height=&quot;244&quot;&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;movie&quot; value=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/S7hB6LEyW68&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;&quot;&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;allowFullScreen&quot; value=&quot;true&quot;&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name=&quot;allowscriptaccess&quot; value=&quot;always&quot;&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/S7hB6LEyW68&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;&quot; type=&quot;application/x-shockwave-flash&quot; allowscriptaccess=&quot;always&quot; allowfullscreen=&quot;true&quot; width=&quot;325&quot; height=&quot;244&quot;&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He already talked about that, kris, in his SOTU, which I wrote about as well.</p><p><a
href="http://www.taylormarsh.com/2010/01/28/enough-time-for-results/" rel="nofollow">http://www.taylormarsh.com/2010/01/28/enough-time-for-results/</a></p><p><a
href="http://www.businessweek.com/smallbiz/running_small_business/archives/2010/01/what_obama_said.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.businessweek.com/smallbiz/running_small_business/archives/2010/01/what_obama_said.html</a></p><p>The real pain on small biz is health care.</p><p>Read Brad Delong&#8217;s new book, with Stephen Cohen. You might find this interesting LL:</p><p><object
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isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=49502#comment-460701</guid> <description>Here&#039;s one place to consider Lake Lady - with a link:http://tinyurl.com/yhluuyd&quot;Bottom line: Hensarling was correct in that the annual budget deficit soared in 2009, though it did not increase by twelve-fold as he asserted in his comments. However, he does come close for some years. The 2009 deficit was about nine times the size of the 2002 and 2007 deficits, when Republicans
controlled the White House and at least one chamber of Congress.Obama was essentially correct when he said he inherited a budget deficit of $1.3 trillion. Though the budget deficit for 2008 was a then-record $458.6 billion, the CBO issued a projection in January 2009, just days before Obama took office that the budget deficit would reach $1.2 trillion that year, before the cost of any new stimulus plan or other legislation was taken into account.As for the impact that Obama&#039;s first budget would have on the national debt, the CBO estimated the national debt would indeed triple by the year 2019 under the president&#039;s budget, from $5.8 trillion to $17.1 trillion. The
president&#039;s budget office, the Office of Management and Budget, projected that the national debt would increase to $16.0 trillion by 2019.When the CBO issued its projections for Obama&#039;s budget in June 2009, it projected that the national debt would double to $11.7 trillion by 2019 if its pre-Obama baseline economic assumptions were held steady for 10 years. A more recent CBO baseline projection from this month puts the national debt at $14.3 trillion in 2019 and $15.0 trillion in 2020.The budget process begins at the first part of each year when the president submits his proposal to Congress, which spends months debating and negotiating toward a final bill. That bill would go into effect on October 1, if it is passed by Congress and signed by the president in time. If that has not happened, Congress can pass continuing resolutions to allow the government to continue using the old budget. &quot;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s one place to consider Lake Lady &#8211; with a link:</p><p><a
href="http://tinyurl.com/yhluuyd" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yhluuyd</a></p><p>&#8220;Bottom line: Hensarling was correct in that the annual budget deficit soared in 2009, though it did not increase by twelve-fold as he asserted in his comments. However, he does come close for some years. The 2009 deficit was about nine times the size of the 2002 and 2007 deficits, when Republicans<br
/> controlled the White House and at least one chamber of Congress.</p><p>Obama was essentially correct when he said he inherited a budget deficit of $1.3 trillion. Though the budget deficit for 2008 was a then-record $458.6 billion, the CBO issued a projection in January 2009, just days before Obama took office that the budget deficit would reach $1.2 trillion that year, before the cost of any new stimulus plan or other legislation was taken into account.</p><p>As for the impact that Obama&#8217;s first budget would have on the national debt, the CBO estimated the national debt would indeed triple by the year 2019 under the president&#8217;s budget, from $5.8 trillion to $17.1 trillion. The<br
/> president&#8217;s budget office, the Office of Management and Budget, projected that the national debt would increase to $16.0 trillion by 2019.</p><p>When the CBO issued its projections for Obama&#8217;s budget in June 2009, it projected that the national debt would double to $11.7 trillion by 2019 if its pre-Obama baseline economic assumptions were held steady for 10 years. A more recent CBO baseline projection from this month puts the national debt at $14.3 trillion in 2019 and $15.0 trillion in 2020.</p><p>The budget process begins at the first part of each year when the president submits his proposal to Congress, which spends months debating and negotiating toward a final bill. That bill would go into effect on October 1, if it is passed by Congress and signed by the president in time. If that has not happened, Congress can pass continuing resolutions to allow the government to continue using the old budget. &#8220;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lake Lady</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/02/obamas-3-8-trillion-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-460699</link> <dc:creator>Lake Lady</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:44:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=49502#comment-460699</guid> <description>Clinton is still being vilified for going for a &quot;peace dividend&quot; and cutting the Pentagon budget.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clinton is still being vilified for going for a &#8220;peace dividend&#8221; and cutting the Pentagon budget.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Imhotep</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/02/obamas-3-8-trillion-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-460698</link> <dc:creator>Imhotep</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:37:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=49502#comment-460698</guid> <description>kris, here&#039;s what entitlements aren&#039;t.  They are not Social Security which pays for itself.  (A $2.2 trillion dollar excess in that account.)  They are not Medicare which pays for itself. (Won&#039;t run into the red until at least 2017.)  Entitlements are part of discretionary spending which constitutes only 17% of the total budget.  About $477 billion.  Interest on the debt is 8% of the budget.  Mandatory obligations is another 10% of the budget.  That leaves Defense which is 23% of the budget or $741 billion dollars.  You simply cannot get any real savings or cuts to the deficit unless and until you cut the Defense portion of the budget dramatically.  Say by 50%.  Once you do that all manner of good things will begin to happen.   Peace</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kris, here&#8217;s what entitlements aren&#8217;t.  They are not Social Security which pays for itself.  (A $2.2 trillion dollar excess in that account.)  They are not Medicare which pays for itself. (Won&#8217;t run into the red until at least 2017.)  Entitlements are part of discretionary spending which constitutes only 17% of the total budget.  About $477 billion.  Interest on the debt is 8% of the budget.  Mandatory obligations is another 10% of the budget.  That leaves Defense which is 23% of the budget or $741 billion dollars.  You simply cannot get any real savings or cuts to the deficit unless and until you cut the Defense portion of the budget dramatically.  Say by 50%.  Once you do that all manner of good things will begin to happen.   Peace</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: kris</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/02/obamas-3-8-trillion-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-460697</link> <dc:creator>kris</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:29:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=49502#comment-460697</guid> <description>As for capital gains, that&#039;s a nice bone, but capital gains should be eliminated FOR small businesses. Now that would be an incentive.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for capital gains, that&#8217;s a nice bone, but capital gains should be eliminated FOR small businesses. Now that would be an incentive.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: kris</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/02/obamas-3-8-trillion-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-460695</link> <dc:creator>kris</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:27:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=49502#comment-460695</guid> <description>We can imhotep, but I want to add that the only way to reduce the deficit is holding the line on entitlements. This Administration is not willing to do so and given that fact the &quot;freeze&quot; is a joke.I hope we all realize that roughtly 1.65 trillion of this budget needs to be borrowed.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can imhotep, but I want to add that the only way to reduce the deficit is holding the line on entitlements. This Administration is not willing to do so and given that fact the &#8220;freeze&#8221; is a joke.</p><p>I hope we all realize that roughtly 1.65 trillion of this budget needs to be borrowed.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Noogan</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/02/obamas-3-8-trillion-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-460693</link> <dc:creator>Noogan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:23:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=49502#comment-460693</guid> <description>Lake Lady, I have been reading serious economists at their blogs since 1994, and was therefore quite prepared when the crisis hit in 2008. I knew it was coming since 2006, because I&#039;d been reading Nouriel Roubini since 2004. since you&#039;re making presumptions about me--again--I&#039;m going to post a list of my routine reading so you can start educating yourself. Most of these blogs link to information, too which is helpful. You can link to articles in the Financial Times, at Bloomberg, etc, so I didn&#039;t list the mainstream media sources below. But by reading these extremely knowledgeable bloggers on a regular basis, you get a pretty good BIG PICTURE of what is really going on.Cheers  :-)First, here&#039;s a picture that says all that needs to be said about Obama&#039;s Budget. You just can&#039;t spend your way out of debt; it doesn&#039;t work.http://jsmineset.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/clip_image00145.jpghttp://market-ticker.denninger.net/
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/
http://www.financialarmageddon.com/
http://jsmineset.com/
http://www.businessinsider.com/
http://www.realclearmarkets.com/
http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/
http://www.zerohedge.com/
http://www.roubini.com/index.php
http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/
http://wallstreetpit.com/
http://www.creditwritedowns.com/
http://thecomingdepression.blogspot.com/
http://seekingalpha.com/
http://www.moneyandmarkets.com/</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lake Lady, I have been reading serious economists at their blogs since 1994, and was therefore quite prepared when the crisis hit in 2008. I knew it was coming since 2006, because I&#8217;d been reading Nouriel Roubini since 2004. since you&#8217;re making presumptions about me&#8211;again&#8211;I&#8217;m going to post a list of my routine reading so you can start educating yourself. Most of these blogs link to information, too which is helpful. You can link to articles in the Financial Times, at Bloomberg, etc, so I didn&#8217;t list the mainstream media sources below. But by reading these extremely knowledgeable bloggers on a regular basis, you get a pretty good BIG PICTURE of what is really going on.</p><p>Cheers <img
src='http://taylormarsh.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>First, here&#8217;s a picture that says all that needs to be said about Obama&#8217;s Budget. You just can&#8217;t spend your way out of debt; it doesn&#8217;t work.</p><p><a
href="http://jsmineset.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/clip_image00145.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://jsmineset.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/clip_image00145.jpg</a></p><p><a
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href="http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/</a><br
/> <a
href="http://wallstreetpit.com/" rel="nofollow">http://wallstreetpit.com/</a><br
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href="http://www.creditwritedowns.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.creditwritedowns.com/</a><br
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href="http://thecomingdepression.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://thecomingdepression.blogspot.com/</a><br
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href="http://www.moneyandmarkets.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.moneyandmarkets.com/</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Imhotep</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/02/obamas-3-8-trillion-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-460691</link> <dc:creator>Imhotep</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:18:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=49502#comment-460691</guid> <description>Can we get back to the Defense portion of the budget yet?  Peace</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we get back to the Defense portion of the budget yet?  Peace</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lake Lady</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/02/obamas-3-8-trillion-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-460688</link> <dc:creator>Lake Lady</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:14:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=49502#comment-460688</guid> <description>I get your drift and agree with it for the most part Imhotep.Thanks Kris..I am not well schooled in economics but I don&#039;t trust conservatives.I try to keep up on what Dean Baker,Simon Johnson,Paul Krugman and Robini(sp?) are saying. It is so hard to know what information to trust in this area for someone fairly ignorant on the topic.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get your drift and agree with it for the most part Imhotep.</p><p>Thanks Kris..I am not well schooled in economics but I don&#8217;t trust conservatives.</p><p>I try to keep up on what Dean Baker,Simon Johnson,Paul Krugman and Robini(sp?) are saying. It is so hard to know what information to trust in this area for someone fairly ignorant on the topic.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lake Lady</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/02/obamas-3-8-trillion-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-460687</link> <dc:creator>Lake Lady</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:08:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=49502#comment-460687</guid> <description>It appears that the big bankers are thumbing their noses at all of us with their bonus&#039; they know thay own congress and they are asking us,&quot;What are you going to do about it?&quot;Going back to the party that dug the hole in the first place seems illogical to me and desperately wrong. Did anyone see any brain cells to rub together when Obama visited the  Repub caucus? If that is the best they have to  offer..well?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears that the big bankers are thumbing their noses at all of us with their bonus&#8217; they know thay own congress and they are asking us,&#8221;What are you going to do about it?&#8221;</p><p>Going back to the party that dug the hole in the first place seems illogical to me and desperately wrong. Did anyone see any brain cells to rub together when Obama visited the  Repub caucus? If that is the best they have to  offer..well?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Imhotep</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/02/obamas-3-8-trillion-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-460686</link> <dc:creator>Imhotep</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:08:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=49502#comment-460686</guid> <description>LL, not well written, but you get my drift.  Peace</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LL, not well written, but you get my drift.  Peace</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Imhotep</title><link>http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/02/obamas-3-8-trillion-budget/comment-page-1/#comment-460685</link> <dc:creator>Imhotep</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:07:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=49502#comment-460685</guid> <description>Lake Lady, hell I read many conservative.  Actually ever writer that I read, except for one or two, are conservative writers.  Perhaps you could help me out here and name one or two writers who work for the MSM who are not conservatives?  Thanks.  Peace</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lake Lady, hell I read many conservative.  Actually ever writer that I read, except for one or two, are conservative writers.  Perhaps you could help me out here and name one or two writers who work for the MSM who are not conservatives?  Thanks.  Peace</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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