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By: Noogan

Noogan — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 21:24:21 +0000

“Everyone knows what must happen…” But, it may already be moot. Some say the two state solution is dead already. In polls the Palestinians’ support for the two-state solution is decreasing.

Is the Two-State Solution Dead?

A drive east of the Green Line suggests the two-state solution is moot. Jewish-only roads slice through the hills. The separation barrier winds through the West Bank, choking Palestinian villages. Settlements are lodged in the land’s throat.

Dr. Neve Gordon, author of the book Israel’s Occupation comments, “The one-state solution is already on the ground, in the sense that close to half a million Israeli Jews currently live in the area occupied by the [Israeli] army. They’re enmeshed within the Palestinian population.”

While the body of one state is here, the spirit isn’t. The current system, according to Dr. Gordon, is a democracy for Jews and an apartheid regime for Palestinians–different from that of South Africa, but functioning in a similar way.

“The question is whether there can be a separation,” Dr. Gordon says, pointing to the argument made by former Deputy Mayor of Jerusalem, Meron Benvenisti, who called the West Bank an egg that can’t be unscrambled.

And even if Israel could undo some of the mess, the proverbial finger Netanyahu recently gave the Americans suggests that the government has another agenda.

“I think what’s clear is that there is no intention on the part of the Israeli government to support a two-state solution,” Dr. Gordon says. “The borders, the airspace, all remain under Israeli control. What Netanyahu means when he says two states is not a state–it’s a municipality [for Palestinians] to collect their own garbage… What Netanyahu is supporting is a deepening of [settlements and the occupation] while talking about two states.”

To continue to advocate for a two-state solution, Dr. Gordon explains, is to support Netanyahu and his map for an unacknowledged, de facto single state that oppresses Palestinian residents.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mya-guarnieri/is-the-two-state-solution_b_510455.html

“The results show a decline in the Palestinians support for the two-state solution,” Waleed Ladadweh, a researcher with the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research told The Media Line. “From 64 percent in December 2009 to 57 percent in this poll.”

Dr Nabil Kukali, Director of the Palestinian Center for Public Opinion, agreed that Palestinian public opinion is trending towards a bi-national state.

“On the whole Palestinians support the peace process, but there are some changes in attitudes towards the two-state solution,” he told The Media Line. “The Palestinians feel hopeless and they don’t think the Israelis will give the Palestinians one meter of their land.”

http://themedialine.org/news/news_detail.asp?NewsID=28352

By: Imhotep

Imhotep — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 23:22:40 +0000

Taylor, when you say “with Jerusalem the capital of Israel” what exactly do you mean? Do you mean all of Jerusalem or just West Jerusalem? If you mean both West and East Jerusalem than you will see hell freeze over before you ever see a peace treaty and two states. If you mean West Jerusalem allowing the Palestinians to have East Jerusalem as the capital of their new state of Palestine than we could get a peace treaty tomorrow morning. Peace

By: Liberalastheycome

Liberalastheycome — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 20:54:14 +0000

Taylor, thank you for an informative post; seems like in the past few days, you have moved away from an AIPAC is controlling everyone conspiratorial tone (which is furthered by several commenters, of which I shall not name names), to an honest look at the issues surrounding the peace process. Cheers to you for that!

Who knows, Bibi could in the end be the one to bring peace, in a Nixon goes to China sort of way. Let’s hope so.

By: Ramsgate

Ramsgate — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:36:24 +0000

Mike Pence is a gaping ass —le. Hillary made a penny-farthing out of him.
See, Biden brings out the best in all of us.

By: Taylor Marsh

Taylor Marsh — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:32:06 +0000

…and since I mention Mike Pence in my post, he’s challenging Obama on the eve of his arrival to Iowa.

Ya think 2012 is starting early enough????

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/24/pence-to-address-iowa-republicans-on-eve-of-obama-visit/?fbid=AYWtDo08lxC

By: Taylor Marsh

Taylor Marsh — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:30:06 +0000

I’m interested to see what Pres. Obama puts forth for the Israelis and Palestinians to consider and chew on as a starting point to move talks forward.

That is actually very possible, even likely.

By: Ramsgate

Ramsgate — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:25:25 +0000

I’m going way way out on a limb here and I am going to predict that these two may shock us with an agreement of some positive sort which moves the peace process dramatically forward BEFORE the end or the first term. What form it will take, I don’t know. Won’t be the whole apple, but 4/5.