TM Connect


Use "My TM" for log in & register.

No Health Care Bounce for Obama

As Democracy Corps admits up front, who knows how this one will end, but right now the Democratic pollsters say health care didn’t do squat for Democrats.

Health care’s passage did not produce even a point rise in the president’s approval rating or affection for the Democratic Congress. Virtually every key tracking measure in April’s poll has remained unchanged, including the Democrats’ continued weakness on handling of the economy. Both parties are equally reviled, reflected in their lowest ratings in history, while voters want to punish those in power – for the partisan bickering, bailing out the undeserving, government spending, the deficit, and the endless gridlock over health care while people struggled to survive the jobs crisis. With independents even more conservative and Republican-leaning in this survey, the congressional battle in 2010 looks like a dead-heat at best – a 12-point swing in this poll from 2008.

The health care bill is a very bad bill. That people don’t get any goodies until years from now was a ridiculous way to put the package together. The mandate inside a monopoly a horrendous idea. That the taxes on the middle class will hit in later years won’t matter to Obama, because even assuming he gets a second term, the bad stuff won’t hit until he’s gone.

On another note (via Greg Sargent), Mark Murray debunks the wingnut charge that the Obama administration spiked a report revealing health care would increase costs before the final vote on the bill. Murray, however, doesn’t deny the report says health care costs would rise in the near term.

A little back story: While the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimated that the health-care legislation (Senate bill, plus reconciliation bill) would reduce the deficit by $138 billion over 10 years and $1.2 trillion over the next 10 years, the Office of the Actuary at HHS said last week that the new health-care law would raise health costs $311 billion from 2010 to 2019.

Via Chris Cilizza, Charlie Cook has downgraded chances of holding Obama’s old Senate seat after Alexi Giannoulias’ family bank failed last week.

Another sign of 2010 is the Gallup poll on young voters.

Do you know anyone who is “very enthusiastic” about voting in 2010?

About Taylor Marsh

Veteran political analyst and author of "The Hillary Effect - Politics, Sexism and the Destiny of Loss," now available in print at Amazon.com, and 1 of 4 books chosen by Barnes and Noble to launch their "NOOK First" Featured Authors Selection program. Former Miss Missouri, Broadway dancer, & relationship consultant at LA Weekly, produced & wrote one woman show "Weeping for JFK."

, , , , ,

86 Responses to No Health Care Bounce for Obama

  1. Imhotep 27 April 2010 at 7:22 pm #

    I will enthusiatically vote against every Republican on the ballot. Early and often. Peace

  2. secularhumanizinevoluter 27 April 2010 at 7:50 pm #

    Like I said, even a broken clock is right twice a day.
    As far as President Obama and a healthcare bounce…BWAHAHAHAHAHA! FOR THAT PATHETIC PERFORMANCE?!!!!

    • Imhotep 28 April 2010 at 10:43 am #

      That makes me “right” twice as often as you are. Peace

  3. Ramsgate 27 April 2010 at 7:51 pm #

    The hapless Democrats. It couldn’t have happened to a nicer bunch of whores for ignoring their base. :-)

  4. lynnette 27 April 2010 at 9:04 pm #

    “That people don’t get any goodies until years from now was a ridiculous way to put the package together. The mandate inside a monopoly a horrendous idea. That the taxes on the middle class will hit in later years won’t matter to Obama, because even assuming he gets a second term, the bad stuff won’t hit until he’s gone.”

    I still think it’s better to have the bill than not, but I agree with the above mentioned concerns. It is too confusing and complicated for people to clearly understand.

  5. Beth in suburban Chicago 27 April 2010 at 9:05 pm #

    That “dubunking” is kind of … bunk. It’s full of words such as “it’s hard to see how,” for example. There’s nothing definitive that PROVES the Wh didn’t have it ahead of time. That bill is a disaster. It was crammed down our throats, it takes away choice, it’s going to explode costs … and it’s out of the question the WH didn’t know this ahead of time? For heaven’s sakes I sure knew it ahead of time!

  6. Lake Lady 27 April 2010 at 9:12 pm #

    My congressman had a telephone townhall yesterday.The insurance questions were two to one.Everybody thinks they are going to lose something.One challenged if the Bill was Constitutional.

  7. Wonk the Vote 27 April 2010 at 11:48 pm #

    Ds and Rs at their lowest ratings…

    D’n'R system: Do Not Resuscitate.

  8. fairmindedindependant 28 April 2010 at 12:51 am #

    We are in need of a third party badly !!! I will not just vote democrat no more I am keeping my options open and I like to have a choice on who I am voting for, thats where independents such as myself come in. I just wished there was a third party candidates that could come in and win seats and take on both the democrats and republicans. I am watching and readinf about the election in the United Kingdom and I am thrilled about Liberal Democrat Nick Clegg and how well he is doing. It makes me wish there was a third party here. The health care bill is not want either side really wanted. I guess thats why it is being taken to the courts by states. I don’t understand either party anymore and neither as many other people in this country.

  9. guyski 28 April 2010 at 3:40 am #

    Some more polling from Gallup

    “Enthusiastic” Voters Prefer GOP by 20 Points in 2010 Vote

    …Specifically, men are more likely than women to say they would vote for the Republican candidate if the election were held today, while women would favor the Democratic candidate. Those who are currently married are more likely to support Republicans, and the unmarried are more likely to support Democrats.

    There is a combined effect between gender and marriage, such that married men are decidedly Republican and unmarried women strongly Democratic. Marital status seems to be the more important of the two factors, since married men and married women prefer the Republican candidate, and unmarried men and unmarried women prefer the Democratic candidate…

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/127553/Enthusiastic-Voters-Prefer-GOP-Points-2010-Vote.aspx

Trackbacks/Pingbacks

  1. No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … « Internet Cafe Solution - 27 April 2010

    [...] See original here: No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  2. No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … - 27 April 2010

    [...] post:  No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … Categories: Health, Object Tags: credit, credit-suisse, Health, jennifer-jarrett, join-its, [...]

  3. No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … | Health Blog - 27 April 2010

    [...] posted here: No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … a-point-rise, affection-for, approval-rating, not-produce, passage-did, point-rise, president, [...]

  4. No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … | Health Care Bill Blog - 27 April 2010

    [...] Continue reading here: No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  5. No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … Help - 27 April 2010

    [...] the original post:  No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … Health Affairs Briefing: Reinventing Primary Care – Health Affairs …Le·gal [...]

  6. Tweets that mention No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com – News, Opinion and Weblog on Progressive Politics -- Topsy.com - 27 April 2010

    [...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Troy Shaw, Kodie Pipps, Nolan Sylvia, Kate Florcot, Katie Kresner and others. Katie Kresner said: No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com …: On another note (via Greg Sargent), Mark Mur… http://bit.ly/dgFs5p [...]

  7. No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … | Health Issues - 27 April 2010

    [...] Read this article: No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  8. No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … - 27 April 2010

    [...] link: No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … Posted in Health | Tags: a-point-rise, affection-for, congress-virtually, democrats, Health, [...]

  9. No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … | HealthYooy - 27 April 2010

    [...] more from the original source: No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … Uncategorized a-point-rise, april, congress-virtually, democratic, every-key, including-the, [...]

  10. No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … - 27 April 2010

    [...] the rest here: No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … Posted in Health | Tags: affection-for, approval-rating, congress-virtually, democratic, [...]

  11. No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … | Health Blog - 27 April 2010

    [...] the original: No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … affection-for, approval-rating, democratic, democrats, including-the, including-the-democrats, [...]

  12. Your Children-Are You Protecting Them? | Healthy Life Forever - 27 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  13. Chirpir News | No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … - 27 April 2010

    [...] Read full story [...]

  14. No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … : PlanetTalk.net - Learn the truth , no more lies - 28 April 2010

    [...] View original here:  No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  15. Eating Healthy Food – The Natural Way To A Healthy Living | Lose Body Weight - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  16. Can laughing give you a workout? » Berk, Miller, Exercise, When, Vessel, University » Healthy LIfestyle - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  17. Tips to Getting Life Insurance - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com – News, Opini… [...]

  18. How Health Coaching Makes You a Winner | Health Guide - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  19. Hosting - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  20. Success – How to Achieve the Dreams and Goals That You Desire For in Your Life | Achieve Your Dreams! - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com &#82… [...]

  21. What is the difference between Health Insurance and Health care Program? | beijing weather october - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  22. sea world san diego_sea animals_sea world san antonio_sea temperature_sea world orlando » Anyone else notice the Obama questions getting ridiculously personal? - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  23. Can You Lose Weight With A Good Low Fat Diet? | Lose Body Weight - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  24. Immigration, medicine matters of individuals » Jade, York, Medicine, America, System, Casino » Healthy LIfestyle - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  25. Fat Loss Diets – 3 Famous Diets You Might Want to Know | Lose Body Weight - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  26. What is a discount health insurance plan for self employed? - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  27. The Disadvantages Of Credit Card Use | Get The Best Credit - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  28. month old babies_weight gain babies_babies 12 months » Medco Health 1st-quarter Net And Revenue Up 10% - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  29. My sister is a diabetic and has asthma too. So home remedies like taking sugar related stuff like honey is not | CURES FOR ASTHMA - 28 April 2010

    [...] N&#959 Health Care Bounce f&#959r Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  30. What health problems can using an overtly small mouse cause? - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  31. Information You Should Provide For Free Health Insurance Quotes | Legal Stuff - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  32. California Mesothelioma Lawyers Battle on Behalf of Victims | Diffuse Malignant Mesothelioma - 28 April 2010

    [...] N&#959 Health Care Bounce f&#959r Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  33. Ok to mount a bike carrier to the back of a fifth wheel camper or are they not designed for that? | Bike Roof Rack .net - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com – News, Opini… [...]

  34. Heel Pain – Possible Causes of Heel Pain :Apparel Outlet USA - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  35. How many days before Christmas should you buy a real Christmas tree (not fake)? - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  36. Having a Holiday weight loss challenge at work and need to know information on cleansing and detox.? | Top Secret Weight Loss - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  37. Understanding Canker Sores And How It’s Affected With Teeth Whitening | General Health Blog - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  38. adventures_adventure trips_adventure trip_free online adventure games_adventure quest worlds » Economist discusses benefits of health bill - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  39. www.Richard-Weaving.com » More Photos - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  40. If You Are Considering Losing Weight A Planned Exercise Routine Is Needed | Lose Body Weight - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  41. If You Are Considering Losing Weight A Planned Exercise Routine Is Needed | Lose Body Weight - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  42. A Perfect Way To Get Answers To The Questions Connected With Loan Modification : Loans Blog - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  43. Buying Health Care Products That Are Safe | Health Guide - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  44. Get Six Pack Abs | Study: Blood Thinners Don’t Prevent Miscarriage - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com – News, Opini… [...]

  45. Getting To Know: Health & Safety | Legal Stuff - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  46. Get Six Pack Abs | Eat Hot Peppers to Burn Extra Calories, Fat - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com – News, Opini… [...]

  47. month old babies_weight gain babies_babies 12 months » WATCH: Sleep Solutions - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  48. baby shaker_baby handmade_bristol palin baby » Medco Health Solutions 1Q Results at a Glance - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  49. Primary care internists unpaid for flood of phone calls, e-mails » Medicine, Baron, Farber, Health, Don’t, Mention » Healthy LIfestyle - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  50. AUD/JPY: strong short term bounce but major resistance still capping | Currency Trading Exchange Guide - 28 April 2010

    [...] N&#959 Health Care Bounce f&#959r Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com – New… [...]

  51. month old babies_weight gain babies_babies 12 months » What are the emergency health interventions for Diabetes ? - 28 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  52. Health Care for Dogs | Dog Training Reviews Guide - 29 April 2010

    [...] N&#959 Health Care Bounce f&#959r Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  53. Mesothelioma and Palliative Care | Mesothelioma Treatment | Mesothelioma treatments - 29 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  54. month old babies_weight gain babies_babies 12 months » how much money would i be spending on a leopard gecko at a reptile expo? - 29 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  55. It's the season and I want people to be informed about "The Christmas Puppy" – by Lexiann Grant? - 29 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  56. Now That I Have Got COPD, Where Do I Get A Prescription Program Assistance? - 29 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  57. Health Tip: Understanding Organic Foods | beijing weather october - 29 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  58. Is the Key to Good Health Really More Sex? | beijing weather october - 29 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  59. What are the health benefits of being vegetarian or vegan? - 29 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  60. What are the health benefits of being vegetarian or vegan? - 29 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  61. Do you know the difference between health care and health care coverage? - 29 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  62. WATCH: Sleep Solutions - 29 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  63. WHATS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CHAKRA BALANCING AND AURA CLEANSING? | Chakra Healing with Chakra Colors and Chakra Balancing using Chakra Stones and Healing Stones - 29 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com – News, Opini… [...]

  64. Utah boy mowing the lawn runs into TNT canister | beijing weather october - 29 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  65. Taking Proper Care Of Braided Rugs To Make Them Last A Lifetime | TOP 10 VACUUMCLEANERS - 29 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  66. Affirmations Software – Sculptor3. | TOP 10 VACUUMCLEANERS - 29 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  67. Affirmations Software – Sculptor3. | TOP 10 VACUUMCLEANERS - 29 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  68. ___#1 Health Product___. | TOP 10 VACUUMCLEANERS - 29 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  69. New health care law traps some in pricey state plans | beijing weather october - 29 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  70. What is the difference between Health Insurance and Health care Program? - 30 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  71. I have some questions about selling on Ebay, any experienced sellers out there? - 30 April 2010

    [...] N&#959 Health Care Bounce f&#959r Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com – New… [...]

  72. Utah boy mowing the lawn runs into TNT canister - 30 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  73. Michaels Traffic Videos. | TOP 10 VACUUMCLEANERS - 30 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]

  74. Top 10 Natural, Eco-Friendly and Anti-Pollutant Houseplants | TOP 10 VACUUMCLEANERS - 30 April 2010

    [...] No Health Care Bounce for Obama | Taylor Marsh – TaylorMarsh.com … [...]