Comments on: 2010: Finally, Democrats Come Up with A Plan http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/07/2010-finally-democrats-come-up-with-a-plan/ Taylor Marsh - News, Political Analysis, Foreign Policy, and Independent Political Opinion on Progressive Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:13:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: JoeBeetshttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/07/2010-finally-democrats-come-up-with-a-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-479007 JoeBeets Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:28:50 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=62322#comment-479007 An even stranger expression when you say spit instead of spite (argh) An even stranger expression when you say spit instead of spite (argh)

]]> By: JoeBeetshttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/07/2010-finally-democrats-come-up-with-a-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-479001 JoeBeets Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:59:58 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=62322#comment-479001 I won't vote Republican or Democrat again. I may vote for "a" Democrat if that is my best option, but not on the Democrat line. Perhaps that may show my dissatisfaction with the party while not cutting off my nose to spit my face. (what a strange expression!) I won’t vote Republican or Democrat again. I may vote for “a” Democrat if that is my best option, but not on the Democrat line. Perhaps that may show my dissatisfaction with the party while not cutting off my nose to spit my face. (what a strange expression!)

]]> By: NoFortunateSonhttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/07/2010-finally-democrats-come-up-with-a-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-478969 NoFortunateSon Thu, 29 Jul 2010 03:16:27 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=62322#comment-478969 Republican Tea Party Republican T Party Republican'T Party ... There's a lot to work with here. Republican Tea Party
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There’s a lot to work with here.

]]> By: Ronc99http://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/07/2010-finally-democrats-come-up-with-a-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-478968 Ronc99 Thu, 29 Jul 2010 01:42:02 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=62322#comment-478968 If you want to get us to vote, you have to offer solutions. The Dems are not. Reid was a joke at Netroots Nation. Never has a party had a mandate like the Obama and DNC did in 2008 after winning the White House, Congress and Senate. Yet, they pissed it away giving us corporate legislation over campaign promises.In the end, I suspect the majority of America will join me in saying NO to voting for either party. Neither deserves control or power.Conventional wisdom says we Progressives will come running back. HA! It ain't happening nor can we be motivated or bought.Taylor, do the GAG (Guns/Abortion/Gays) issues matter so much that we have to retain a massive Federal government runneth amok? We don't see Dems cutting the bloated intelligence or Pentagon budgets, as is a must. So what is left to cut? Education, Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, etc. WTG Dems!Today's DNC is not socialist, it's fascist. They like the RNC believe banks, corporate America and Big Insurance/Pharmaceuticals/Energy should run our government. The backroom deals, the lack of transparency, the bank bailouts all done in our name prevents voting for the Democratic party.I don't give a damn if its Senator Rand Paul, Senator Angle, Congressperson Bachmann and her gang of tea partiers, President Palin, blah, blah, blah. These gang of fools give us the same legislation as OUR sides' alleged adults and smartest people in the room. Besides, these tea party ghouls are far more entertaining. If you want to get us to vote, you have to offer solutions. The Dems are not. Reid was a joke at Netroots Nation. Never has a party had a mandate like the Obama and DNC did in 2008 after winning the White House, Congress and Senate. Yet, they pissed it away giving us corporate legislation over campaign promises.

In the end, I suspect the majority of America will join me in saying NO to voting for either party. Neither deserves control or power.

Conventional wisdom says we Progressives will come running back. HA! It ain’t happening nor can we be motivated or bought.

Taylor, do the GAG (Guns/Abortion/Gays) issues matter so much that we have to retain a massive Federal government runneth amok? We don’t see Dems cutting the bloated intelligence or Pentagon budgets, as is a must. So what is left to cut? Education, Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, etc. WTG Dems!

Today’s DNC is not socialist, it’s fascist. They like the RNC believe banks, corporate America and Big Insurance/Pharmaceuticals/Energy should run our government. The backroom deals, the lack of transparency, the bank bailouts all done in our name prevents voting for the Democratic party.

I don’t give a damn if its Senator Rand Paul, Senator Angle, Congressperson Bachmann and her gang of tea partiers, President Palin, blah, blah, blah. These gang of fools give us the same legislation as OUR sides’ alleged adults and smartest people in the room. Besides, these tea party ghouls are far more entertaining.

]]> By: fairmindedindependanthttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/07/2010-finally-democrats-come-up-with-a-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-478965 fairmindedindependant Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:16:59 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=62322#comment-478965 Well with the Judge ruling against the Arizona Law on some things in it, but all I heard MSNBC and other networks is that the republicans and tea party is so angry that there going to the polls in droves while the democrats think they won the ruling and won't need to vote. With networks saying the republicans are going in droves and the democrats might gain in 2012 but not in 2010, its almost telling democrats not to even vote because the other party is more willing to vote. Could this ruling be a setback in November but not in 2012, thats what I am wondering. Yes I think it is a good idea to tie the republicans to the tea party, but the republicans are going to do the same to the democrats, calling them socialist and wanting the federal government to take over everything. Well with the Judge ruling against the Arizona Law on some things in it, but all I heard MSNBC and other networks is that the republicans and tea party is so angry that there going to the polls in droves while the democrats think they won the ruling and won’t need to vote. With networks saying the republicans are going in droves and the democrats might gain in 2012 but not in 2010, its almost telling democrats not to even vote because the other party is more willing to vote. Could this ruling be a setback in November but not in 2012, thats what I am wondering. Yes I think it is a good idea to tie the republicans to the tea party, but the republicans are going to do the same to the democrats, calling them socialist and wanting the federal government to take over everything.

]]> By: Taylor Marshhttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/07/2010-finally-democrats-come-up-with-a-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-478962 Taylor Marsh Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:43:15 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=62322#comment-478962 Yep, the Republican Tea Party offers an extreme view, which helps Dems immensely.Honestly, I was wondering when someone was going to morph the two. I'm glad it happened now instead of October. Yep, the Republican Tea Party offers an extreme view, which helps Dems immensely.

Honestly, I was wondering when someone was going to morph the two. I’m glad it happened now instead of October.

]]> By: Taylor Marshhttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/07/2010-finally-democrats-come-up-with-a-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-478961 Taylor Marsh Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:42:03 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=62322#comment-478961 Please provide links on things like that, LLady, as I've not seen *anything* on it.Interesting:http://www.tnr.com/blog/william-galston/76631/democrats-republicans-popularity-new-demographics<i>Second, the Independents who helped Democrats score a notable success in the 2006 midterm elections may well do the same for Republicans in 2010.</i>I think this is correct. Please provide links on things like that, LLady, as I’ve not seen *anything* on it.

Interesting:

http://www.tnr.com/blog/william-galston/76631/democrats-republicans-popularity-new-demographics

Second, the Independents who helped Democrats score a notable success in the 2006 midterm elections may well do the same for Republicans in 2010.

I think this is correct.

]]> By: Taylor Marshhttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/07/2010-finally-democrats-come-up-with-a-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-478960 Taylor Marsh Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:35:24 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=62322#comment-478960 You're talking policy, TJ. I'm talking election year tactics.Running against Bush was stupid. Making the Republican Tea Party the subject is very smart.This is about how you market Dems for an election season that everyone knows is going to yield Republican gains, even if Dems keep the majority, which you can bet will be a HUGE story if they pull it off. Republicans taking a big beating if it does not.As for "new world," if that's what you want help Blue America, because that's *exactly* what they're trying to do. You’re talking policy, TJ. I’m talking election year tactics.

Running against Bush was stupid. Making the Republican Tea Party the subject is very smart.

This is about how you market Dems for an election season that everyone knows is going to yield Republican gains, even if Dems keep the majority, which you can bet will be a HUGE story if they pull it off. Republicans taking a big beating if it does not.

As for “new world,” if that’s what you want help Blue America, because that’s *exactly* what they’re trying to do.

]]> By: Lake Ladyhttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/07/2010-finally-democrats-come-up-with-a-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-478958 Lake Lady Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:42:25 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=62322#comment-478958 I think there has been some recent movement among the Independents back to the Dems,at least in terms of policy. I think there has been some recent movement among the Independents back to the Dems,at least in terms of policy.

]]> By: Ramsgatehttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/07/2010-finally-democrats-come-up-with-a-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-478955 Ramsgate Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:07:00 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=62322#comment-478955 Republican "Tea Party" is in fact brilliant. Especially because for a lot of people the difference between Republican and Democrat is becoming more and more difficult to discern. Republican “Tea Party” is in fact brilliant. Especially because for a lot of people the difference between Republican and Democrat is becoming more and more difficult to discern.

]]> By: TaosJohnhttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/07/2010-finally-democrats-come-up-with-a-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-478954 TaosJohn Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:04:43 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=62322#comment-478954 No, no, no. This is Beltway bullshit. The Dems aren't going to "fight back," this is the same old, VERY OLD, good cop/bad cop stuff, only it's good party/bad party. But it's just two sides of the same thing. I don't buy it, I'm not voting any more, I quit. And I know I'm not alone.Both legacy parties represent the system. The bankers. The bullshit. All of which is doomed, BTW. Read some astrology. Listen to your heart. It's O.V.E.R.We have a completely new world to build. The sooner we get on with it, the better. No, no, no. This is Beltway bullshit. The Dems aren’t going to “fight back,” this is the same old, VERY OLD, good cop/bad cop stuff, only it’s good party/bad party. But it’s just two sides of the same thing. I don’t buy it, I’m not voting any more, I quit. And I know I’m not alone.

Both legacy parties represent the system. The bankers. The bullshit. All of which is doomed, BTW. Read some astrology. Listen to your heart. It’s O.V.E.R.

We have a completely new world to build. The sooner we get on with it, the better.

]]> By: Taylor Marshhttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/07/2010-finally-democrats-come-up-with-a-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-478953 Taylor Marsh Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:35:27 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=62322#comment-478953 I know, huh? The Republican Tea Party, it sings! ;-) I know, huh? The Republican Tea Party, it sings! ;-)

]]> By: AlicePhttp://taylormarsh.com/blog/2010/07/2010-finally-democrats-come-up-with-a-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-478952 AliceP Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:30:55 +0000 http://www.taylormarsh.com/?p=62322#comment-478952 Wow - maybe there is finally hope the dems will fight back! Wow – maybe there is finally hope the dems will fight back!

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