Howard Fineman, a political veteran, in his most seriously impressed voice, said on MSNBC yesterday that when he was at the White House everyone was in a “feisty, almost angry mood.”
Last night on her show, Rachel Maddow said that Pres. Obama’s speech was “perhaps an unexpectedly satisfying speech.” That it was “less Rotary and more roundhouse.”
I did this in 2007 and 2008, are you telling me I’m going to have to do this again? Because he didn’t fool me the first time and he’s not going to do it now either.
Sweet Jesus, people, he campaigned on the public option.
But he spoke “remarkably infrequently,” according to Sam Stein, about it, just like he’s spoken “remarkably infrequently” about the things he said today. What happened on the public option is now part of his record.
Candidate Obama also had a record from the Illinois Senate; he now has a record as President of the United States. Do I have to draw you a picture?
Look, I’m not in the least interested in helping elect Republicans or Tea Party candidates or Independent presidential candidates, so believe me I want Pres. Obama to get his act together. The Republican Right is in enough of an uproar that I’d like to be able to give the guy high fives. But my job is to analyze and dissect this stuff the best I can, no matter how the truth comes down, so you don’t get bamboozled. Again.
Yesterday he was Candidate Obama in campaign mode. Has everyone forgotten what he was like during the ’08 primary season? Do people really believe he’s lost the talent to deliver a campaign speech? The man is the great communicator, circa 21st century. He wraps people around his finger for a living. His specialty is Democrats.
Pres. Obama is not the guy he was when he first ran for president. The guy is visibly tired. His energy level is grounded, not up. His swagger is muted so that his former persona looks like it’s been permanently grounded. The job has taken it’s toll. He’s been so humbled he even gave Pres. Bill Clinton credit during his speech yesterday, with the whole tone of the speech and the phraseology sounding a lot less speechifying, with a focus on crisp, short lines delivered pointedly and passionately similar to what was William Jefferson Clinton’s great talent. The words are being delivered differently now, but surely you can recall how Candidate Obama took it to Republicans in 2008, after first taking it to Hillary, cutting all opponents in his way to the bone.
Same thing, different energy, new campaign.
Looking around at the reviews it’s obvious Democrats, progressives and liberals are so desperate to see proof of political life from Pres. Obama they’ll grasp at anything, any moment, even a campaign speech delivered from Candidate Obama, circa reelection 2012, about issues he hasn’t spoken about since the last time he auditioned for the job.
If this is how the rest of this term is going to go leading up to his reelection effort…
If this is the way Pres. Obama is going to run for reelection…
If this is the way Pres. Obama is going to call out Republicans on what they’re for…
Talking about Democratic Party values and principles like he means it, while taking it to Republicans and getting in their grill on policy…
Those last lines paraphrase Rachel Maddow last night.
We’ve all heard enough speeches and that’s not Pres. Obama’s problem or ours.
Pres. Obama’s got a year and a half to prove he not only means what he said yesterday, but that he’s going to back it up with actions.
I’ve been here before and many of you have, too.
The people mentioned above have a vested interest in Obama. A direct personal gain. It is to their personal advantage to say what they say. Honest analysis is not necessary.
With regards to wrapping people around his finger, “his specialty is Democrats” Yes. Hey, anyone remember the lyrics of “Temptation Eyes” by the Grassroots? Substitute Obama and you have it nailed.
She’s got something that moves my soul
And she knows I’d love to love her
But she lets me down ev’ry time
Can’t make her mine, she’s no one’s lover
Tonight with me, she’ll be so inviting
I want her all for myself, oh
CHORUS:
Temptation eyes
Looking through my-my-my soul
Temptation eyes
You’ve got to love me, got to love me tonight
Got to love me, baby, yeah
Mm-hmm
(From: http://www.elyrics.net/read/g/grass-roots-lyrics/temptation-eyes-lyrics.html)
Her wild-eyed innocence is just a game
But just the same, my head is spinnin’
She’s got a way to keep me on her side
It’s just a ride, it’s never ending
Tonight with me, she’ll be so exciting
I want her all for myself, oh
LoL. That’s a really good one. I will print out the lines and keep them very close to me as a reality check for the next year and half whenever I shall hear candidate Obama make candidate Obama promises. As I was listening to the speech yesterday I thought it was a very decent speech, struck all the right notes…”unexpectedly satisfying”. Taylor is right he is a powerful politician and campaigner.
Read my essay while playing it…
Of course, no use doing politics if it’s not fun
If we’re gonna do this thing (have fun) let’s get it right:
Ides of March – Vehicle
http://www.youtube.com/artist?a=GxdCwVVULXeiy7p-KsDgW5ovhl5QMzDK&feature=watch_video_title
Hey, well
I’m the friendly stranger in the black sedan
Oh won’t you hop inside my car
I got pictures, got candy, I am a lovable man
I’d like to take you to the nearest star
I’m your Democrat baby
I’ll take you anywhere you wanna go
I’m your Democrat woman
By now I’m sure you know
That I love ya (love you)
I need ya (need you)
I want to, got to have you child
Great God in heaven, you know I love you
Well if you want to be a movie star
I got the ticket to Hollywood
Well if you want to stay just like you are
You know I think you really should
I’m your Democrat baby
I’ll take you anywhere you wanna go
I’m your Democrat woman
By now I’m sure you know
That I love ya (love you)
I need ya (need you)
I want to, got to have you child
Great God in heaven, you know I love you
Oh you know I do
Well I’m the friendly stranger in the black sedan
Oh won’t you hop inside my car
I got pictures, candy, I am a lovable man
I’d like to take you to the nearest star
I’m your Democrat babe
I’ll take you anywhere you wanna go
I’m your Democrat woman
By now I’m sure you know
That I love ya (love you)
I need ya (need you)
I want to, I got to have ya
Great God in heaven, you know I love you
And I’m your Democrat babe
You know I love ya (love you)
I need ya (need you)
I want to, got to have you child
Great God in heaven, you know I love you
From HuffPo:
WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama succeeded in uniting his party and reminding Republicans who lives in the White House with his first major fiscal policy speech Wednesday—a step forward on an issue already setting off a partisan firestorm on Capitol Hill.
He STARTS by saying that deficit reduction is an important issue right now, when the economy is flat and unemployment is still high. Then moves to “revamping” (read, cutting) our social programs. He’s uniting two groups…one with people who are doing well and another whose lives just get much more difficult.
Lawrence O’Donnell gave a biting, unvarnished, big picture analysis of the Obama speech last night on the Last Word. It was a teachable moment for our dear leader.
http://thelastword.msnbc.msn.com/
Lawrence O’Donnell’s only half right. His thought process still assumes Republicans are the bad guys and Democrats are the good guys. He doesn’t understand what many Americans don’t get: in good cop bad cop both cops are on the same team.
In the US today there is no major party fighting for the working class, the middle class, or our most vulnerable citizens. And as O’Donnell notes Republicans have never been that party; the loss of a major party being on our side is flatly the fault of Reagan Democrats who then became, or whose children became, Democrats who voted for Obama.
What happened in 2008 has been simmering in Democratic culture since the 1980s but it came to a head with the Obama/Clinton Primary and the General Election that followed — that’s when Democratic grit was ultimately tested. The Democratic Party was changed by Obamabots and those who didn’t have what it took to resist the Obama tools of racism and ridicule and fear mongering and nowhere-else-to-go, who didn’t have the guts to do what was necessary for the long-haul protection of Democratic principles.
You’re not going to change the Democratic Party back now, it’s too late. Our opportunity was in 2008.
I tweeted after hearing it, TPAZ, calling it “Lawrence O’Donnell’s unannounced ‘special comment.’”
It was a tour de force.
I forgot about KO; you’re 100% right. this was a “Special Comment”
Just watched that segment of Lawrence O’Donnell’s show and sadly I have to agree with Zaladonis.
O’Donnell paints a picture of a well meaning but uninformed President. I think he is being way too kind. Either Obama doesn’t care or more likely knows exactly what is being done and this process is all Theater. Anybody that thinks Obama will live up to his words is simply out of their minds.
I just saw on one of the talking head business shows a discussion about the debt and one of the guest simply said the the people of the US all need to learn to live with a lower standard of living – he said our hair cut would average about 10%. That’s what this is all about – its about lowering our standard of living to make us competitive again.
Play video of O’Donnell during the primaries and his real character shines through….propagandist. He lied throughout the primaries…and once a liar, always a liar…even if at times, he appears on your side. Remember Chris Matthews? He loved Bush. And now he loves Obama. He’s paid to do a job for big monied interests. And the little people are only fed part of the story. Like the banks. How about the rating agencies? No one is attacking them or the lax regulations…or in particular probing what the Republicans did. Dems lob easy targets for their stupid base. And they eat it up. Meanwhile our stupid middle east policies are in shambles while the us taxpayer pays to rebuild afghanistan. For what? I agree with Donald. We need to get paid back for our protection. We have morons negotiating for our team. Morons when Bush was President and morons now. Dems are too passive. Only the working class can fight…while all the elites can do is discuss and ponder. And pander.
Spot on rant!
And I’ll just add that we should immediately withdraw all troops and military commitment from Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya. Spend that money here in the States on jobs programs and tax incentives for development of alternative energy sources and storage.
Obama, doing what Obama has always done … though now with highly visible governance baggage. We have “been here before,” as you say, Taylor, though of course, Obama’s actions since moving into the WH make the realities of Obama’s “here” even more obvious than it was in 2008.
The context has also changed a bit. The Reps still do what Reps do, but at this moment, with highly visible divisions and fractures. In 2008, when everyone had to know there was only the tiniest of chances a Rep would be elected, they gave McCain the nomination, which to me seemed a sort of “might as well let him have his turn since post-W., we haven’t got a shot to win anyway” kind of thing. Given the significant Dem and independent unhappiness with Obama, the Reps have the opportunity to offer an actual challenge. But helpfully to Obama, the Reps establishment finds itself with serious problems of its own.
I’ll beleive Pres Obama will fight when I see it. It’s not in his makeup. There will be concessions/cave in’s we just don’t know how bad. It won’t be “standard” compromise, it will be cave-ins because he won’t fight to win, but because he will negotiate not to lose.
The Pres and the Dems put themselves in this box the minute they let the Bush tax cuts expire and reduced the Soc Sec payroll tax. They lacked the guts to pass a budget before the 2010 elections, and now they have to deal with batshit crazies from the right in the House. I for one do not see a way out unless the Pres and Dems forcefully take their message and plan to the people-and they have been woefully inadequate at that over the past two yrs.
The one wild card is how crazy and stupid are the Repubs in wanting to eliminate medicare, medicaid and Soc Sec. I don’t think the “normal” Repubs want this because I believe the voter backlash would be enormous. Their focus on medicare, medicaid and Soc Sec is the leverage they will use to extract other concessions from the Pres and Dems.And they will probably succeed.
One of the first things the Pres first needs to do is shut the hell up about Reagan and start talking more about FDR , HST, JFK, LBJ and WJC and all the positive that came with those administrations and Presidencies. The right will never give him any respect/credit when he tries to channel some Reagan. He needs to start being a partisan and clearly distinguish the Dems from the Repubs and not worry about offending the Repubs. Screw the above the partisanship posturing and become a partisan. Politics is all about partisanship.
The politics of today-particularly the Republican politics-show an America full of hateful, mean-spirited people, who are selfish and greedy and care nothing for the country. You know the Republican “starve the beast” philosophy? Well, why not let them see it for real? Red states get no more federal funds. All those red-state confederates are now completely on their own and no one cares. See if the Republican party can withstand having its dreams come true.
You are so correct. And this demonstrates what incompetent wimps (or purposefully wimps)Dems are. The red states don’t pay their fair share. The blue states subsidize the red state mismanagement and mistreatment. So a Dem president should cut them off of the federal trough. Let the red states lose tax dollars. Instead, it doesn’t appear that the Red Senators ever get punished by losing money and tax breaks for their States. Why should the Dems care about the states that always vote Rep. Let the people of that state see what real Republican values mean without fed dollars and fed breaks. Take it all away. That’s what Republicans do. But Dems are idiots. They were the idiots who kept losing after Carter because they chose bad candidates. Only Clinton saved the Democratic party from oblivion. And look at how they repaid him. Obama unfortunately, is a picture of the wimpy Democrats who supported him. It’s all so sad…and so predictable. Keep in mind, David Plouffe is running things now…so there are better speeches and better images. But it is Plouffe, not Obama. History doesn’t lie.
Once upon a time, many many years ago, I believed that being a politician was an honorable profession. Unfortunately, as I’ve aged I realize that our politicians are not our servants but we have become their servants.
I have never been deluded with our President. I figured him out long before he was elected. And I knew he would sell the old time Democrats down the river. All he had to do was channel Ronald Reagan and I knew what side of the political spectrum he was on. He wasn’t then and he isn’t now, nor will he ever be a Democrat as I define a Democrat. He’s sold the people out for what I’m not sure.
Always good to read what you have to say, JA. Thanks for stopping in.
I spend my time lurking these days. I really can’t add much to the conversation without being redundant. I’m just so very sorry this administration has confused being the kind of Democratic administration that it once was.
Besides, I don’t know a real democrat who “admires” Ronald Reagan!
I was disgusted, but by no means surprised, to tune in to Stephanie Miller’s show and hear her orgasm over Obama’s speech- “see? See? I TOLD you he was a liberal, I told you he was a fighter, blah blah blah…”
Of course Miller’s problem is that she has zero credibility on this score- she thinks Obama in awesomely inspiring Just Because He Is, and has nothing but scorn for anyone who dares criticize him.
A caller accused Obama of war crimes because he’s continuing the killing of civilians with predator drones in Pakistan and of failing to close GITMO- Miller yawned “oh please!” and let loose with the usual excuses before hanging up on him. Same s–t, different day.
Me? I’m long past being “inspired” by pretty words. Let’s see some action please.
It’s very important for people to understand that polls show 75%-80% of rank & file Dems support Obama.
Whether it’s Stephanie Miller or Ed Schultz, even Rachel Maddow, these well-meaning Democrats are not going to challenge Pres. Obama and “help Republicans,” as they see it. They are part of the establishment, if not of it.
Sure they’ll criticize when it’s warranted, especially Rachel. But it gets *very* serious when come election time.
I’ve been writing about this for months and months. The majority of Democrats come home when things get tough.
That said, Obama & his team have real challenges in 2012. One is the activist base who isn’t as enthralled as 08, with Republicans likely to vote for their brand of crazy & get out & campaign hard.
There are Dems who are now Independents, but others who will vote, work for progressive candidates, but who will not cast a vote for Obama.
In a competitive, tough election margins can make the difference. There are serious unknowns for the Obama reelection team and I’m not sure Jim Messina is the guy who can handle it, though Axelrod & Plouffe certainly are.
When you consider that the swing states have Republican governors and that the electoral math doesn’t look great, a lot this is bluff. Of course, with Republican policies like Ryan’s and a slow recovery, the jobs picture will be definitive. And I don’t see how we get a better recovery with deficit preoccupation now. However, it does make sense for Republicans. They want a poor economy to run on and hammer Obama with. That’s what is so perplexing. Isn’t it obvious this deficit talk has nothing to do with the deficit and everything to do with the election. Republicans want a failed economic recovery to run on. But telling people they will cut satety nets, and education and medicare in a poor recovery is stupid. Or they believe Americans are stupid. Or Dems are more stupid. It’s so overwhelmingly depressing.
Miller is a pure paid propagandist. No different than the Fox variety right winger. Talking points and a clear agenda. She attacked Hillary with venom and never once allowed an honest debate. What is interesting is that Republicans revealed their true nature with the Paul Ryan budget. They have such little respect and fear of Obama, that they thought they could push for any crazy budget. They must have forgotten that Plouffe isn’t Axelrod. Problem is…Obama does their dirty work incrementally…and offers no positive solutions, let alone willpower to fight for an agenda that works for the middle class. That’s why I like the flawed Donald. Taylor gets it just right. He does care. About America. And has a fighting spirit. But I too, wonder whether he wants to endure what running for President entails. He’ll need powerful allies to fight the media. I hope he has what it takes to go the distance. The Republicans don’t look too bright either these days…mean spirited and self interested….We need something different and Trump is the only one with balls. But he can’t do it alone. I too believe, in the end, Trump will not feel its worth the risk. But I sure wish he’d do a debate or two. And debating Obama would be the best. That alone would expose it all. But it’s easy to grasp at straws when we see what’s happening to the country….when we see what an incompetent corrupt Democrat is doing to destroy everything that Bill Clinton put back together. Anyway, I always revert to the same position: anyone who denounced Bill Clinton deserves what they get now. Losers.
He is the same man he was in ’08. He was tired then. He had no energy then. In one of her columns during the campaign, Maureen Dowd of The New York Times said, Hillary Clinton is much older and does not work out but seems to have more energy than Mr.Obama who is much younger and does work out.” He is not a great communicator. Have you ever seen him try to speak without a teleprompter. He cannot string two words together. Siebilus was shocked, when at her introduction as Mr.Obama’s health pick, she saw these high tech teleprompters coming out of the floor. He has a long hisotry of being lazy, missing votes and being indecisive.He seems to have wanted power all his life but does not know what to do with it. He reminds me of the Robert Redford character in ” The Candidate.” On election night, after winning, he looks at his handlers and says, ” What do we do now.”
nice touch..the post and the Redford analogy!
Taylor,
Well said and ^5s. I think we are ALL on the same page and it is NOT on Obama’s page.
I along with everyone else was furious reading all these Progressive pundits marveling over yet, just another speech by Obama. Will never believe another word that politician delivers and haven’t since he picked Timothy Geithner as his Treasury Secretary.
I agree with Zaladonis in their analogy of not getting played by the good cops/bad cops scenario, as they are all on the same team in DC. And we are not included. I also agree with your conclusion, our time for change was in 2008 and we got it wrong.
Late last night, as I was surfing the web and getting angrier by the second for all these Dems getting “fooled again” by “The One”, I saw this Tweet which gave me comfort. It was from a very liberal actor whom I admire:
johncusack John Cusack
by tw_top_ent
he caves.. he will undo the new deal for the repubs all in the name of his second term
Exactly my opinion. Again, thanks Taylor, for providing us the forum to vent — you have Obama down to the last *rotten* O.
Yep. Geithner who was the field general in charge of handing money to the failed bankers (and their friends and spouses) in 2008 as president of the NY Fed. That was one big fat clue, as if any were needed by then.
I just turned if al off last night. Couldn’t watch.
I turned it off as well. I know what they’re saying and it’s just angering seeing it repeated in a hopelessly ruinous loop. And we’ll have plenty of chances to see it again and again over the next couple of years.
It’s utter nonsense to suggest it makes any difference at all if they’re “well-meaning” or good intentioned or whatever other qualifier apologist Dems keep prefixing them with. There were well-meaning people in Germany and Austria who without malice helped Nazis gain power. That’s how people who do bad things acquire power, not just from other “bad-meaning” people. Poor judgment, going along with what they’re manipulated into believing is best while ridiculing and attacking those who try to explain what’s really happening, that’s what most human beings do in circumstances like this, that’s how this happens. This has been played out dozens of times throughout history and although the details vary widely the human response mechanism is the same. To me it’s become clear that because of all the extreme variables of our time, by the time the dust settles this will be worse by far than anything that’s happened in Western Civilization in hundreds of years. We’re careening into a dark age. The sad news is we had one last chance to avert it in 2008.
The good news is there will be a new beginning.
it all…sorry
To quote Maxwell Smart: If only there were a pattern to these crimes…
A Maxwell Smart reference, and a GrassRoots song … two good ways to stay sane while paying attention to politics
heh-heh… that’s great, c359.
just what was needed…so apropos.
I’ve got nothing much to add but it seems that while some people on the blogs were sold many were not due to the behavior we have seen the last two years.
70% of dems is a low number and I don’t know that it will be enough to win. I understand Obama’s desire to run against someone like Palin but the RNC may not be that stupid. I’m willing to bet they figure out a way for one of their candidates that polls higher to get the nomination.
Some of these progressives are delusional. Obama’s speech was BS but it was politically cunning. As Taylor pointed out, he’s in campaign mode- that means a lot of progressive-sounding talk but no follow up. If he had really wanted to end the Bush tax cuts he shouldn’t have caved in the name of “compromise” when the Democrats controlled every damn branch of govt. Do you really think he’s going to act on even part of what he said during that speech? Please.
David Sirota has pointed out that Obama’s talk about cutting defense spending is largely Kabuki Theater nonsense:
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/04/14/obama_discretionary_budget_cuts_pentagon/index.html
But he’ll keep throwing the base some zero-calorie crumbs to keep people like Maddow and Ed Shultz and Cenk happy. Then when they realize Obama doesn’t mean a word of it, they’ll be sad again.
Yesterday Glenn Greenwald called out the liberal pundits for being so naive about all of this. He points out that when push comes to shove, Obama is simply not a progressive and thus the “compromises” he is making may actually reflect some of his actual views. Just look at who he surrounds himself with- Wall Street enablers- does anyone see any advisers that actually represent real progressive change on the economic front? Christ, the one decent person was Volcker but he was largely used as a photo op but pushed out by Summers and the other corporate stooges.
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/04/13/obama/index.html
Campaign Left Govern Right.
The truth is the progressive plan/agenda will never catch fire in American UNTIL our pols get off the corporate dole (which ain’t gonna happen unless something weirdo/strange happens). Personally, if I was President Obama, I wouldn’t have sought re-election. Throw a whole bunch of new candidates in a ring for a slugfest on both sides. Shake it up. That would have been real change for President Obama.
And I’m not a liberal or conservative. I slanted somewhere. LOL!
interesting perspective.
In ’08, we all had the Bush flu. We all took the Obama drug hoping to feel great in no time. Instead, we found out that corporate PHARMA had been lying to us and this new Obama pill was riddled with hidden side effects leaving us feeling almost as bad as the Bush flu. Now, it’s almost flu season and GOP flu looks as bad or worse than the Bush flu, and we know that the Obama pill will once again make us sick. We have to decide which sickness is the least nauseating and painful.
I think you should stick a fork in the collective “we.” I have never been part of the brainwashed mass that elected Barack Obama. I never cared for “hope and change” mantra from an empty suit. I do not care for fluffy, feel-good speeches from a man who had no record to speak of to back up the greatness that he and his campaign projected.
What I did see was a ruthless, sexist campaign who pulled the race card at its convenience while demonizing the other Democratic campaigns as playing dirty politics.
I’m not responsible for contributing to the demise of the liberal movement or the Democratic Party.
Hear, hear. I, too, was not part of the collective ‘we.’ Though a Dem all my life, there was no way I believed a candidate who said the President he admired most was . . . Raygun. What???? Or a man who consistently voted ‘present’ on the important, controversial issues.
I didn’t vote for the man in 2008. And though, I won’t vote Republican, I’ll vote 3rd party or not at all.
Obama’s speech? Classic. Said just enough to satisfy those progressives who absolutely must believe [I refuse to extend the Bush tax cuts].
Excuse me. We’ve already done this. Deja Vu anyone? Yet he received huge applause. Are memories that short??
And he bashed Paul Ryan [who deserves to be bashed for total dishonesty]. But let’s not forget, Barack Obama set up the Cat Food Commission. And he said he’s willing to use that as a guide for ‘necessary cuts.’
This is pure theater for re-election purposes. I didn’t believe him in 2008. Now he has a public record that cannot be scrubbed or revised. I sure as hell don’t believe him now. And neither should anyone else who can still think critically.
He may be a pleasant man, a good family man with two very attractive daughters. But he is not the leader we desperately needed/need. What we didn’t need was an extension of George W. Bush.
Am I disgusted? Yeah, bigtime!
I still don’t see the overt sexism that some said President Obama played up in the 2008 campaign season. But that’s many moons ago and I don’t live in a Pastime Paradise (much love to ya Stevie Wonder for that classic tune). Anywayz…
I’m not disgusted with President Obama. Heck, I’m wasn’t disgusted with President Bush. Why? Because “We The People” are routinely brainwashed en masse by “our guy” or “our gal”. President Obama’s brainwashed masses or no different from the other presidental brainwashed masses. The late, great George Carlin said that the reason our politicians suck is because “the public sucks”. That WAS a bitter pill for me to swallow. But not anymore.
This is a liberal site. And many of you are completely off of President Obama. Then he shouldn’t get ANY of your support. Not one iota. And if you can’t stand the Republican offerings, don’t support them either. WE need to be able to show how disgust by voting that no one is qualified. It’s a powerful way to make American leadership feels us. The lesser of two evils is dumb now. The stakes are too high. If the Dems or Repubs serve slop, we don’t have to eat it. Heck, I’m down for a political hunger strike. And if this strike leads to a Republican win, so what? Cause they are EPIC FAILURES too. Unfortunately my fellow Americans, we are in the hurting times. We have years of hurt in front of us because we keep supporting these jokers and we are in the middle of THE GREAT CORRECTION. We take our “brainwashing” without complaint. That has to end. Who says we have to vote for the slop providers?
Sorry for the spelling mistakes. And I’ve been reading this site for a long time. Just started commenting. =)
more stimulating thoughts. But I disliked Obama during the primaries..and was for Hillary….i hated him…and was convinced during the election that there was a possibility that Palin would become President, so I voted thinking he wasn’t as bad as Palin. A rational vote.
where did you come from? such succinct analysis. and so correct.
The whole “we all” and “everybody thought” and “nobody could have seen” stuff that was and still is so much a part of the Obama Revolution is very troubling. It’s been building in this country a long time and is one of the signs of American deterioration. Group think, bullied conformity, mob rule is always a sign of major trouble brewing, and believing they and their compatriots are well intentioned is as typical as it is irrelevant to the goodness or badness of the movement.
Plainly evident among Democrats who shilled for Obama during both the Primary and General of 2008 was a lack of individualism and critical thinking. And most of these people repeating the same talking points fancied themselves critical thinkers at the same time they lobbed and piled on personal attacks at Democrats who actually were independently analyzing information and thinking for themselves.
And most of them are still doing it. The “birther” stuff is an example. There is nothing unreasonable about citizens expecting a Presidential candidate or sitting President to provide his or her long form birth certificate. In New York if I want to get a driver’s license or passport I have to provide one, and that’s just to conform to state rules. Asking our President to provide easily obtainable evidence that proves meeting a requirement spelled out in the United States Constitution surely is as important as citizens obtaining a driver’s license. Personally I’d let the birth certificate issue pass at this point because no good can come from the discovery of anything substantively irregular on that score, but ridiculing or dismissing or attacking any citizen for raising the issue is a sure sign that someone’s brain is still hobbled by the kind of irrational manipulated conformity and group think that gave us Obama in the first place.
I’m impressed with your analytical thinking. And so clear headed and perceptive.
You fail to acknowledge that there was a choice in 08. Many knew exactly who the right Democrat was. And we were ostracized. I will never trust a progressive or liberal Dem…especially the elites, and I know them…because they brought us the Manchurian Candidate. Those of us who knew must lead. The ones that saw Obama as the one, have no clue.
When I heard about the speech and how he was back to being Obama, my first and only thought was, the 2012 election campaign has officially begun.
And that is when I knew that I couldn’t watch it. A lifelong Democrat here and I don’t believe a word that comes out of his mouth. Who cares if he can read a great speech? Actions!!!
So true. Gone. Gone. Gone.